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Mentioning vi, grep, awk and other nix command tools doesn't count?
I use them as often on Windows as I do on nix, just because they're ports doesn't mean anything.... I could care less what they were developped for, doesn't make them nix tools in my books.
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The robustness of the windows gui ability to configure the OS at it's core is identical to the robustness the linux cli has in the nix enviroment.
I hope you are kidding... while it's close, I wouldn't never consider it to be identical.
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Gentoo does not come with whois, telnet, traceroute, and a few other essential linux commands because of it's foundation values of building from the ground up. Every aspect of linux but the linux kernel is 3rd party.
Again with the linux... I mentioned ftp and ipconfig... I'm pretty sure those are both MS apps... so I would have to go with not being 3rd party.
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If a rose preforms the same function as a lily, then what does the name matter? If awk is a text injection/replacement tool, does notepad and ultra edit -not- have the exact same functions, but in gui? If grep is a string searching utility with formatting options, is that no different than the windows search or any other 3rd party windows filesystem search program?
Had you compared find to Windows search/ 3rd party filesystem search software... I would have accepted it... but comparing grep to filesystem search software is a little much. It's a good deal more powerful as that. As far as awk compared to notepad.. or even ultra edit.. I'd say if I was stretching maybe... awk is considered to be a programming language..... and has many more features than notepad or ultra edit.
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You are upset because I stood up to you in AIM. Most people here understand that I do not often even come on the forums. I do not often post or comment. I post sparringly and speak sparringly, on topics I feel I know rock solid. That which I do not know, I ask. That which I have learned through forged experience any many years of trial and error, schooling and hands-on experience....I will defend. There is no need to feel so repulsed by my words meant to defend that which I have learned first hand. Instead, try as the majority of AO users here do... and stop talking long enough to merely listen.
I'm not upset about anything other than your misrepresentation of quality applications. You do not often post or comment and you post sparringly??? Bad person to use that argument with... My posts per day 2.6, your posts per day 3.77... You post a heck of a lot more often than I do. As far as your learning experience, you sound like a old die hard prof who refuses to be proved wrong on something he's held on to for so long... heaven forbid someone younger know something you don't. If you are implying I don't listen, again you are sadly mistake... so be it... it's very clear that you don't hear anything other people say.
Peace,
HT
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Since I just saw this post now
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Just me though, and on this one particular subject where I wish I could show him instead of argue about possibilities, my patience is low, yes.
Why not argue possibilities.... You can't show someone something, unless they can believe it, which includes arguing (I'd prefer debating) the possibilities.
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Do I know everything? Hardly
I'm glad to see honesty from you finally
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Do I wish to share what I know? Of course.
No one is doubting that for a second
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Do I have patience for those who are in a 'prove me wrong' game? No
It's not a matter of playing a 'prove me wrong' game.. This is how a discussion works... just because you know something doesn't mean it's law. I've never met you so this next statement could be incorrect but I'm assuming you are only human... human's make mistakes, it's part of human nature.
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