help needed-bios problem?maybe?

hi all,
not sure this is a hardware problem but it might be.
got computer from work.we get rid of them as they get older.so i decided to take one home and do it for kids.
when i put it on had a password and bios password too.so i took batery out and waited few minutes and put it back and now i am stuck with screen which says to press delete to set up.when i did that nothing happened.
tried reboot, tried changing keyboard nothing f8 and things same thing is on the screen.
Dont know motherboard model because i didnt explored everithig yet but screen says:

award modular bios v6.00pg
intel 810 agp set bios for 6wmmc7
intel celeron 766mhz
question:
can you download this bios?
is it anything else misssing there?
opened case and motherboard with integrated video and sound
memory 48
hd 20gb
sony cd
and sony floppy
any sugestions???
thanks

There might be a jumper on the motherboard that called clear rtc. I can't remember the settings but switching them all off of on I believe will clear the BIOS. Of course take the batter out again and do this. YOu might also try touching the retaining clip of the battery compartment to the ground. I've heard that that helps to reset them.

Thats all I can think of right now. Maybe that will reset the BIOS and let you in.

Cheyenne you beat me to it! ;) Yea that's what I was going to tell you. Can you look and see what brand of motherboard you have? At work this is a common occurence and there should be usually a pair of jumpers that you can switch to reset BIOS. What is the computer brand? Here is a link to someone with the Exact same problem http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hard..._20655019.html it has a page with the solution to the problem. Same MO, screen stay blank etc. Check it out.

We do bios resets all the time for people at work that try to be slick :P. What is normally done to reset the bios is to take the battery jumper off completely, and leave it off for about 15 seconds. Just to be sure that the bios is clean, leave the battery jumper off and start the PC back up, you'll most likely get an error, but pay no mind to it. After that is done, then replace the battery jumper back on the appropriate pegs, and start the PC back up.

The problem also could be that when you took off the battery jumper, that it was not fully replaced, the error messages you get vary, depending upon the motherboard. Let me know if this helps you any.

Sorry, I forgot to add to my post that on some motherboards you'll notice that the jumper is labeled with a "bty", "battery", or like cheyenne said, "rtc"...by the way cheyenne, I've never heard of touching the battery clip to the ground...props to you for that one, I'll have to try it :)

I never heard of it either till I had some problems and had a tech support guy tell me to do that as a last resort since setting the jumpers to clear the ram and removing the batter didn't work.

dear friend,

i had just attached the bios file u mentioned & bios agent
which will help u.

Sometimes the system will accept it.

Hey do u have the manual for your motherboard??
Well this is first time i hear about this kind of a problem, but i suggest that u remove the battery and wait for longer (few hours), and see the result.

:)

thanks guys will do some serious trys tomorrow as now is late thanks for your help will let you know whats happen
thnks

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Originally posted here by krp
dear friend,

i had just attached the bios file u mentioned & bios agent
which will help u.

Sometimes the system will accept it.

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This is probably legit, but never the less....

I don't think I would do a bios flash upgrade from a file posted by someone you don't know and I would reccomend you do not either.!

Steve

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Removed the word newbie so as not to dis newbies - their opinions are as valid as anyone elses.

I beg the forgiveness of those I have offended.

If you trust the source of the download, please download and install!

hi again
have tried all suggestions not lucky yet,
found- motherboard is gigabyte rev 4.0 with ga-6wmmc7 tried to find manual with google but run out of patience.
will keep trying.
when i took jumper out screen gave me un error message but when i put it back still same screen.
thanks

I know this sound outrageous and silly but trust me i have done it this way for years.

Take the CMOS battery out and put it some place safe, if you have a jumper that you can reset to clear you CMOS do so, then put your mother board in the freezer for atl east 24 hours.

You see, all your BIOS settings are stored in a CMOS chip and the only way to make sure you delete all the info stored in the chip now a days, is to hit them with a UV light, however they are a kind of volatile chip so using the CMOS reset jumper might not always work first time, you could be lucky of course and it work the first time or you could be unlucky and it doesnt work till the 100th time you reset it!

BUT,CMOS chips do not like the cold, or the heat for that matter, but its easer and safer to freeze it that it is to heat it up!

Give it a shot, also if you cant start your system up DONT flash the BIOS as it wont completley install untill you have started your system up COMPLETLEY, if you stop the prosess halfway through you will permantly damage you bios and hence your mo bo and will prob have to send it away to be re-flashed!!

I have been aware of freezing for some time (very?).............nokia........do you steal car stereos for a living? :D :D

Not a good idea with something that you want to keep and use? hey, nokia, before you flame me, please check the physics/metallurgy?

It will work..............but for how long?

Cheers, have a good weekend all

Johnno

Found your Motherboard at the gigabyte website. Heres the links to their BIOS FIles
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/motherboa..._GA-6WMMC7.htm

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My browsers freezing up right now, but if you click on the manuals link, you will find your manual for the baord. Look for CMOS jumpers.

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Originally posted here by nihil
I have been aware of freezing for some time (very?).............nokia........do you steal car stereos for a living? :D :D

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LOL, how on earth did you guess that?? ;-)

Nothing on a Mo Bo will incur any damage as long as once you have "Thawed" it out you dont put it straight back in the frigde(maybe leave it for a few dayz) the only component(s) that will be affected (as far as I have been told anyway) are CMOS chips everything else would be OK.

I wouldnt recommend pluging the Mo Bo stright in, as soon as you have taken it out of the freezer though!

Its a garenteed solution to the BIOS password problem though!

Award BIOS backdoor passwords:
ALFAROME
ALLy
aLLy
aLLY
ALLY
aPAf
_award
AWARD_SW
AWARD?SW
AWARD SW
AWARD PW
AWKWARD
awkward BIOSTAR
CONCAT
CONDO
Condo
d8on
djonet
HLT
J64
J256
J262
j332
j322 KDD
Lkwpeter
LKWPETER
PINT
pint
SER
SKY_FOX
SYXZ
syxz
shift + syxz
TTPTHA ZAAADA
ZBAAACA
ZJAAADC
01322222
589589
589721
595595
598598
AMI BIOS backdoor passwords:
AMI
AAAMMMIII
BIOS
PASSWORD
HEWITT RAND
AMI?SW
AMI_SW
LKWPETER
A.M.I.
CONDO
PHOENIX BIOS backdoor passwords:
phoenix, PHOENIX, CMOS, BIOS
MISC. COMMON PASSWORDS
ALFAROME
BIOSTAR
biostar
biosstar
CMOS
cmos LKWPETER
lkwpeter
setup
SETUP
Syxz
Wodj
OTHER BIOS PASSWORDS BY MANUFACTURER
Manufacturer Password
VOBIS & IBM merlin
Dell Dell
Biostar Biostar
Compaq Compaq
Enox xo11nE
Epox central
Freetech Posterie
IWill iwill
Jetway spooml
Packard Bell bell9
QDI QDI
Siemens SKY_FOX
TMC BIGO
Toshiba Toshiba
TOSHIBA BIOS
Most Toshiba laptops and some desktop systems will bypass the BIOS password if the left shift key is held down during boot
IBM APTIVA BIOS
Press both mouse buttons repeatedly during the boot

This may sound stupid?

you said that you "took the jumper out"????

In my experience, there are usually three pins on the MoBo, and the jumper is connecting pins 1 & 2. With the machine OFF, you connect pins 2 & 3. Then power up the machine and power it down again. Then replace the jumper on pins 1 & 2.

Just watch out for this: :zap:


Good luck :)