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hello all.....
Is it possible for someone in the area of Montreal, Quebec, Canada to have been assigned an IP address from a Tampa, FL, USA area pool?
The IP address was taken from three sources: email-hotmail, email-yahoo, and IM-yahoo.
Tracing route to pool-71-122-221-xxx.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.122.221.xxx]
(Where xxx=175)
thanks.
I dont know...If i put my ip in the tracer on this site it tells me i'm from boston, when i'm really from minnesota. I dont know how this all works, but i can trace with DOS which i learned on here. You should check it out. I'd rather do it myself than let a website or company do it for me.
Your IP address is assigned by your ISP im with comcast and im pulling an IP address from Chantilly, Virginia, United States. But I live in Texas. it doesnt matter where you live it matters where your ISP is pulling your address from.
Keep in mind this is just an educated guess im not 100% positive on this.
Yes it is, in theory..................a lot of these databases are out of date............. several tell me that I am in Toronto :eek:
I don't mind the very long swim, it is the long walk before and afterwards :D
What traceroute did you use?
:)
Don't trust the IP locator on this site. It's actually quite broken, probably using an database years out of date by now.
It even tells me I'm in Queensland, Australia. WAY off.
VisualRoute is a far better tool if you want to locate an address geographically; they actually keep the database up to date.
And to the best of my knowldge, Verizon does not offer Internet in Montreal. Unless this person is using a cellphone (and even then it's unlikely), something is amiss...
Hi Striek,
Do you remember that post a few weeks back? the guy had a related question............ I did some investigation and found out the source of this incorrect info. The guys said that the database was no longer maintained from a few years back, and there have been a load of reallocations since?
Drklabyrinth , if this is important, please let me know, and I will find it for you, otherwise I would not want to spend half an hour or so................ I know /My Bad ...... I should have written it down! :eek:
Is my above post anywhere near correct? Like I said it was an educated guess
This board is by far the best i've ever been on. It makes me think. I will write a tutorial on traceing with DOS, but not now, i'm moving and there's much to be done.
let me see if i understand you guys correctly.....
the databases that track this stuff are often out of date. Also, the pools of IP addresses are not static to an isp or geography?
i used netstat to display the IP, then pathping, and tracert to get the info....
Tracing route to pool-71-122-221-xxx.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.122.221.xxx]
(Where xxx=175)
for what it is worth, i have been using this site when i want to look up isp info.
http://psacake.com/web/eg.asp
The "ip locator" databases are often out of date. However, the dns shouldn't... and you see several clues in the name right there... tampa florida, dsl (most likely dynamically assigned), and several whois databases out there have the same type of info on that ip address.
http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=71.122.221.175
http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl (have to enter the ip address)
they both show verizon with contacts in VA (where their headquarters are)
What makes you think this IP *should* belong to someone in canada?
It's possible they were working off of another machine remotely? (terminal services? ssh? etc.)
If you'll be patient, i will write a tutorial on how to trace using DOS. I'm only going to do it if someone tells me how my first one is. I may have to change how i write things down and such.
If you cannot wait, PM me.
Why do i think they were in canada?
they told me they were in canada. and when i asked about the IP address from tampa, they got rather offended. they also had the same IP address at home (evening) and at work (afternoon).
Their IP address is now back to bouncing around the montreal area. (montreal, sherbrooke, toronto, kitchener...)
It's certainly possible that they were using an open proxy trying to conceal their real location.
Or, that they were just using a remote machine.
If someone uses a tool like tor, their ip address will change with every request... so you'll never be able to find them. Take a look at it. Things aren't always as they seem...
http://tor.eff.org/
they had this same address for early january through mid march.
Hmmmmm,
My latest attempt to trace it gives me Reston, Virginia?
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois....71.122.221.175
As far as I know http://www.dnsstuff.com is a fairly useful tool, and up to date. It gets my IP into the UK at least, and the right general area (for the ISP's location).
:)
EDIT: Traceroute doesn't help, as we seem to hit a firewall in Verizon land?
nihil: that is just the whois record. the address listed there is the verizon headquarters.
the dns record is going to be more reliable. as we can see from the dns record the general area. (thank the techs for making it easier for us)
If I whois my ip it tells me the isp and their contacts are in NJ when I'm in DE. If I look at the dns record of my ip, I can see DE clearly listed in the dns record. The whois record can have any info in it. It's just who owns the address and who to contact regarding technical or legal issues.
ISPs don't always put a clue as to where the connection is coming from... but many do to make it easier on the techs troubleshooting issues such as routing problems. It'd be a pain for them to have to look up every hop in a route when it's so easy to put easy to understand info in the dns record.
My tracert indicates that it's def. going to florida.
I'd say that the person who told you they were from canada is either one of the following:
From canada and working remotely from a machine in florida.
From canada and using a proxy in florida.
or
From florida and now that you've called them on the ip discrepancey... they're now using a proxy around the area from where they claim to actually be.
Seeing that the ip was the same for so long, I'd say it's the latter. Now they're just trying to cover their a$$! :)
They are not all that difficult to find...
http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-CA.htm