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nooo, this isn't a kiddie script thread..lol, i just realised that i could be taken that way by the title...anyway, i was just visiting the links page of AO, and I clicked on a few, browsing the websites, and i clicked on:
http://www.how2hack-security.net/
and on that page was:
Is this a joke..or what?Quote:
This site has been recently hacked. The site will be fixed soon. Please visit here to keep updated.
i love these guys.
I think thats not a joke....someone hacked a site which claimed to teach how to hack.....so it taought the lessons back to the site admin!!! GOOD hacker!!??? or BAD??
Hope that it never happens with AO though!
I rofl'd.Quote:
Hope that it never happens with AO though!
That is hilarious... it seems that security related sites are always prime targets for web defacements... just that little touch of irony...
It happens because hackers like challenges. They look for sites that present a challenge, and go at it
I love comments like this... They show the true mindset of people today.Quote:
Originally posted here by Anti-AntiEarth
It happens because hackers like challenges. They look for sites that present a challenge, and go at it
"Hackers" in the classic sense of the word like challenges... That word has all but been abandoned many places because of the negative connotations..
Reverse Engineers, Hardware Hackers (2 word term), Security Researchers, Pen Testers, etc... they like a challenge...
Skiddies like what's easy... These sites don't present a challenge... They are sitting with a vuln version of software that can be Point 'n Click Hacked (Which I'm gonna call PnCHd (Pinched)from now on... let's see if we can start a new term) or something that a single line of text will pull off ;echo "This site has been hacked" > index.html for example..
Don't think defacements take skill or talent.. usually they take a Bugtraq posting and a kid with too much time on their hands.
Peace,
HT
Pinched FTW!Quote:
Skiddies like what's easy... These sites don't present a challenge... They are sitting with a vuln version of software that can be Point 'n Click Hacked (Which I'm gonna call PnCHd (Pinched)from now on... let's see if we can start a new term)
Yep gotta agree with Ht, PnCHd for sure.. ;)
that site has aged over the years. Most of those types of sites don't really upgrade the challenges, so eventually someone's going to be able to complete more then the game, wether meaning to or not..
oh it's happened more then once:Quote:
clickity click the link
well what version of vBulletin is running on AO...i fear if this too is an aged one!!
I always liked the terms white hat, grey hat & black hat. Made me think of that stupid little midget sourcerer from the old he-man cartoon.
In case you forgot what he looked like
I will have to agree with HT on this one though. The term "hacker" almost seems useless being that all types of various penetration methods (malicious, non-malicious) and the associated characteristics of the people who are implementing them, have expanded greatly.
I try to use the term "cracker" to imply someone who is attempting to gain access to a system for malicious reasons but, most "everyday" people think I'm talking about something you put cheese on and serve as an appetizer. oh well.
Speaking of cheese, I love the old "hacker" flicks where they fly around visually obnoxious mainframe databases that look more like disneyland than anything that resembles code, and viruses are depicted as little pac man monsters eating code.
By the way, if any of you are cheesy "hacker" movie producers, I can hit 100 random keys on my keyboard (accompanied with some fractal screen savers) and say "I'm in!". :eek:
Yeah, but can you do it in a vinyl jacket while looking vapid? :DQuote:
Originally posted here by ShagDevil
By the way, if any of you are cheesy "hacker" movie producers, I can hit 100 random keys on my keyboard (accompanied with some fractal screen savers) and say "I'm in!". :eek:
I can :cool:Quote:
Yeah, but can you do it in a vinyl jacket while looking vapid?
MLF
in response to acidtones post about AO being hacked... I love the statements issued by JP/Antionline... it almost seems like they are challenging people to try to deface the site... :)
Good link acidtone, I never knew all that had happened. Correct me if im wrong but I have been here since mid 03' and I dont think AO has been defaced since before that.
I agree with this about 99% of the time. There have been some high profile defacements that actually required some time. Nothing like zero bugging if you are the zero bugger!!!Quote:
Don't think defacements take skill or talent.. usually they take a Bugtraq posting and a kid with too much time on their hands.
Knowledge, responsibility, and intent are all factors here.
It is far easier to destroy than it is to protect.
/2 cents
Definitely my mistake there. Completely wrong terminology and wording. I wasn't even thinking about skiddies when I made that post, but 9 times out of 10 it was one of them who "hacked" that site. It's pretty ironic how the security site was probably done in by a 12 yr old who read the site's info, downloaded (Hack Kool L337 pack/ w working tr0j!) off Kazaa and basically went to work on the site.
Lol. I wasn't thinking. Excuse my last post PLEASE!!1
You are forgiven, but HT gets to touch your winkie.
And I would feel sorry for the individual that tried to go up against this site... very, very sorry.
You should check out JP's bio... I think only a fool would attack his site. Of course, many DO, but few who would be able to do anything at all, and those are simply dismissed... I don't know if he has it still, but there used to be a constantly-updating list of attacks on the site on the main page. T'was amusing.
I must agree with you here..because when you are protecting a system, you set all of the security, and you just wait...when you attack, you have the advantage, because once you find a vulnerability, its not like the person protecting the computer knows about it, becuse if they did, it wouldn't be there.Quote:
Originally posted here by dopeydadwarf
Knowledge, responsibility, and intent are all factors here.
It is far easier to destroy than it is to protect...
Anyway, to get back on track..How long does it usually take for a site like this to 'get back on its feet'?
I dont think anyone is AGAINST this site...and atleast I dont think that a site which is world famous for the secuirity experts in it will ever get defaced....I really dont challenge anyone or anything as such....just that I believe in AO...and you people maintaining it so well!
Thanks....