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Hi there,
I would like to share with you mu thoughts and intentions. I am willing to create a program what would block pornsites in the net, in Kazakhstan. I am thinking about program that always in the net, looking for pornsites and blocking them. In Kazakhstan such softwears are not known and everybody can enter the porn sites. I want to locate this sites to block them, so people searching in the net in Kazakhstan can not see them and enter them. Will be glad to receive your opinions
Are you serious?
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by westin
Yes I am, no jokes.
What is so funny
Do what China does and use DPI.....then arrest and\or kill anyone that disobeys the rules.
That should lock it down pretty fast..
:)
MLF
Are you a government official? Someone that has any authority of the citizens in Kazakhstan? Or are you just trying to dictate what those around you can or can't see? If you are a government official, as they say on fark, 'dude, you're doing it wrong.' ... If you are just an average Joe, what gives you the right to be the judge of what is allowable in your country?
MLF has a pretty good idea. Let's legislate morality to the point of killing people when they break the rules. For their own good, of course.
Please don't get me wrong. I am not an Goverment official or someone who is trying to control people of Kazakhstan, I am saying that I want to create a programm that would warn people visiting this sites. Don't you agree that it harms people from within and there are already so many of them, who cannot simply control them selves any longer.
Yep...fer yer own good.
Personally I can think of alot of worst things then p0rn.
Now child p0rn is a totally different ball game.
I would add slow and brutal torture to the punishment....then let Bubba take care of them for the rest of their miserable lives
MLF
I think Bubba might constitute slow and brutal torture :D ...
1803 - I agree that porn can warp your brain, and that a lot of people would be better off without it. But someone that is looking for porn is not going to be swayed by a warning saying: 'You are about to see porn' ... that is why they are there.
1803
Who died and made you God...or King for that matter. Why do you feel the need to save all these people from "harm"
You know are there kids starving to death in Africa....They could use your help.
MLF
Have you?
I mean we can always talk about children in Africa, so popular topic and everybody use it to cover. First, I am not a God or King or Queen or.... and what I am trying to do is to do a little, what I can do. So please stop writing about "who gave me this right" etc. I need concreet answer for concrete problem no time for this discussion
Have you?
I mean, did you make any donation? Its always easy to use this popular topic about African children and etc. I am not a God, or Kng or Queen or ..... I have concrete topic I wnat to discuss no time for other things. Anybody can help?
Brother, you can't, short and simple. Look at the "Great Firewall of China". It is controlled and run by the government and even with all the resources at their finger tips, they can't stop it or control it.
Find another cause to fight for.
Cheers:
for all any of you know, there's a language barrier and he just wants to prevent people from looking at illegal **** on his network. Most of you probably do that too. :)
I <3 Porn
I </3 Khazakstan.
This must be part of the Cultural Learnings for America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.
1803,
You seem to be trying to find a "solution " for a non-existent problem.
Your country already has a state telco monopoly and filters content, so why not talk to your government?
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...month-dsl.html
$3,355 (USD) a month to visit pr0n sites?.................. I don't think so ;)
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As SodaPopinski has shown, there is filtering software available for desktops and servers.
What you have to consider is how to keep the "blacklists" up to date? I honestly don't think that attempting to block pornographic sites at the ISP is an economic starter................. it would demand far too many resources.
I agree with Soda Popinsky and nihil: use Opendns
https://www.opendns.com/smb/start
Create a free account with them and you can choose to filter out globally pr0n sites
-This is your best choice for now
btw, there will never be a foolproof filter for anything on the web except "deny all connections"
Oh, and Borat approves: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybele_...ski/296926871/
Hmmmm,
That is very true. You close down a "bad" site and two others open in its place. You pass a law proscribing something and they just move to another country where there is no such legislation, not to mention TOR, anonymous servers and the rest.Quote:
btw, there will never be a foolproof filter for anything on the web except "deny all connections"
Basically, you cannot legislate morality if people wish to be amoral or even immoral. Which then takes us dangerously close to a debate on the definitions of morality and even "pornography"?
This sort of thing can only be realistically approached at the individual PC or institutional server level.
If, for example, I ran a small company, I would seriously consider a "whitelist" approach.................... "This is what you can look at and nothing else. If you can demonstrate that it interferes with your legitimate activity, then I will change the rules".
I think it is possibly time for another "Economics, Politics, and Reality 101"?
1. We are dealing with a country of some 16 million inhabitants of whom some 4% actually have internet access. I have no details of how many of these access points are private as opposed to institutional.
2. My current, personal, private, connection would cost $22,000 (USD) per month.
3. What price that the people visiting these pr0n sites are rather well established with the authorities?
4. If you "mess with the Man" only one thing will happen?........... you will be found face down in a back alley covered in dogshit with a chalk line drawn around you (CSI........... in Kazakhstan?.......... forget it)
1803 be careful with what you are trying to stir up ;)
Hi there, thanks for replies. As far as I understood from all comments here, that my approach has to be changed. Suppose there is no way to block this sites in the net in Kazakhstan, except speaking to Kazaktelecom and convince them to do it. But there are only few products on the market in Russian language to block this sites. What I was thinking is to find some good IT people and write this type of programm on Russian and Kazakh languages (very simple) and then strat selling them for private needs.
IF I open a site from which people simply can download this types of programs blocking porn sites, will it be better? And how I can do it
Go ahead, block the porn, then pat yourself on the back for being a moral higher than everyone who looks at porn jack ass, and then wait a month or two for the number of rapes to go up. You act exactly like what I hate about people in general. You think something people do in their own homes is wrong so you tell others. And of course in public everyone acts like they're a moral cop who thinks anything that feels good must be wrong, and so you take it away not realizing at all that when you take away that stuff you're going to make a black market for it, make a few people rich, help organized crime make more money, and why? Because you think masturbation is a moral screw up?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1803
How can you sleep at night?
We have the same problem here... A long time ago some old ladies with nothing to do decided their drunken husband shouldn't be drunk and started trying to ban alcohol. It worked until Al Capone showed everyone prohibition creates more problems than alcohol ever could.
And lets not forget the black market for drugs. The founding members of that movement are probably turning in their graves thinking about how wrong they really were. I know some feel that way, I saw a clip of one saying they were wrong and sorry for the black market and organized crime they created single handedly all because they don't do something and think no one else should either.
If I ever get REALLY rich, I'm buying a small island somewhere and making it my own country. I'm not making much illegal, because I don't want a crime rate. How can criminals make money in a place where they literally have nothing to sell on the black market? they can't.
The people in that country who look at porn aren't going to stop because you think a nipple is horrible. hey're just going to go underground. And you know what? Once they realize they're already doing something illegal, they'll probably start doing more illegal things because, hey, they already broke a few laws right? (If you **** heads against pot can say it's a gateway drug I'll use breaking one law that isn't so bad as a gateway to crime :) ).
All very good points Gore....I have never understood the war on drugs.....legalize it, regulate it, Tax it and save the money on fighting it....use the profits for education.
Educate the people....invest in the future.
Another thing I dont getis....sex is a bad thing :(
Why something so innate and a perfectly natural desire...is bad...sinfull.....evil.
I just dont get it.
MLF
Sex is bad, sinful, and evil because the government has not found a way to tax it!
It is a simple matter to block porn from your own computer, and
all computers in your house. Do a google search for "black hole dns".
As for the whole country, it would require a government effort,
assuming the government has control over the internet service
providers. I am considering approaching the US Government
to block all muslims from going on the internet, as I believe they
serve a false god, and will spend an endless eternity in a literal
hell of eternal torment. You can't be too careful.
:cool:
They have over here...............everything is taxed, even crime :DQuote:
Sex is bad, sinful, and evil because the government has not found a way to tax it
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1803
Ir would certainly be a lot less effort on your part. This software exists already and I do not see any reason to reinvent it.Quote:
IF I open a site from which people simply can download this types of programs blocking porn sites, will it be better? And how I can do it
You might consider providing translations of the instructions, but I wonder if that would be necessary. After all, it seems that computing and internet connections are expensive in your country, so those who have access almost certainly understand enough of a major European language to install and use it.
All you need to do is provide links to the suppliers' sites.
If people are running a business or an institution they will already have software to control what employees are doing, and staff to monitor it.
The only problem that might arise is with people who want to exercise control over what their children see? The simplest way to do this is to have the computing equipment in the family living area, so that its use is constantly monitored, and restrict access times.
1803, you picked a tough crowd to ask about censorship…
Morality and religion aside, there are many reasons to want to block certain types of content. Here in the United States, schools, corporations, and concerned parents do it all the time. Some browsers have built in features for this, although I’m not sure they work very well. There are also software packages that can be installed on the computers, and firewalls that will filter internet connections to cover entire networks. Just do a search on “content filter”.
Keep in mind that none of them are perfect; sites do sneak through and/or get mislabeled.
As far as internet wide warnings, the best idea I’ve seen so far is the .xxx DNS extension, but I think that was shot down.
Hope this helps,
Just for the record I love Pr0n! All types. Hetero Pr0n, Gay Pr0n, Animal Pr0n, Alien Pron... All of it. I'd be a Pr0n star but alas lack the tools necessary.
Any way - 1803 if you want to block tcp and http protocols you are not going to write something easily. The only solution I know of that will do what you want is WebSense. Forget porn. You are trying to block users from accessing a web site. So keeping that in mind remember you also will need to look past the search engines and online portals. Proxy avoidance is something else you need to look at. I use tor and privoxy http://www.torproject.org/ they most likely will bypass anything you could write but good luck to you! Oh and the thousands of Russian porn sites - leave the actual sites alone cause as I said I loves my Pr0n!