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I know this is a month or 2 old, but I didn't see any discussion on this yet. What do you guys think of this SOPA biz?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...s-it-worse.ars
Blocking 'bad' sites at the DNS level, its a slippery slope my friends, slippery slope. I think we need a few more technically saavy people making this decision.
EDIT: Here is a nice video describing the scope of this thing. Good if you don't want to read the whole thing.
http://gizmodo.com/5877543/why-sopa-...-all-the-movie
Another one of those "marvellous" ideas that looks good on paper but is really impractical.
1. Search Engines
They use bots to crawl the web and index sites and their contents. They must index many millions of items per day. How can they tell if a link goes to someone's IP? I do occasionally see on a Google search that a link has been removed because of a complaint, which shows willingness if nothing else.
However, just because a site has one or two bad items on it from time to time is no reason to block the site as a whole.
I am pretty sure that if a search engine gets enough complaints about a particular site then they will block the site themselves as it is costing them money to handle the complaints?
2. Content Hosts
If they are of any size I doubt if they have the resource to check whether a file contains IP or not. They also have to rely on complaints.
3. Indexing/Torrent Sites.
Quite likely to have IP content but once again they cannot follow all the links to check?
I also think that copyrigh/IP law is too varied from country to country and that there are a lot of grey areas, in particular I am thinking of material that has been broadcast to the general public.
I do not see how you can introduce legislation that does not require reasonable proof, then affect people's income as a result. There must be liability for damages or the web will be filled with RIAA/MPAA mercenaries.
And who will pay for all this?............... I have been listening carefully and haven't heard the rustle of RIAA or MPAA cheque books. :D
While they are at it perhaps they should just close the US postal service, as I am sure that it is used for all sorts of illegal activities?
As for this just appling to foreign sites, I really don't believe that at all :rolleyes:
And what about proxies and anonymous browsing services? how do they propose stopping those?
heya nihil and Phalse,
and happy new year to all.
found this in the piratebay site, apparently it had been on their home page since a couple of weeks now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM
loved it:p
Ha, completely agree. They are proposing something they don't have the technical prowess to pull off. This would be a monumental undertaking and would piss a lot of people off. Ha as to the anonymous browsing such as TOR and others, they are simply talking about making them illegal to use all together.
Speaking technically, how would they do this? Its surely not possible.
A million:drink:Simians pounding on keyboards to randomly block domains. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cider
Hi ua549, happy New Year!
I am afraid that I missed this one:
:drink:???? :drink:?!!!!Quote:
A million:drink:Simians pounding on keyboards to randomly block domains.
Am I too late to apply for a job? :lildevil:
Everyone enjoying blackout day?
Hi all
As you probably know the site Mega upload has been pulled off the web so even with the present legislation it is possible for the US to internationally block sites and have them taken down. Given that precedent you tube, Google and Facebook just to name a few sites can be pulled any time the MPAA likes. Or maybe it will just affect non US companies.
What really annoys me thought is the fact that in the case of the arrests and extradition warrants the laws and treaty's being used were voted in at the time to protect against terrorism.
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AndHappy new year to everyone.
Only if the legislation in the other countries is similar. ;)Quote:
so even with the present legislation it is possible for the US to internationally block sites and have them taken down
It seems that Megaupload have been cynically profiteering from the distribution of copyrighted material, that is why they have fallen foul of the law in various countries.
From what I have seen of SOPA et al, it would only try to stop Americans from accessing copyright material on foreign servers, by blocking access to those servers from within the US............. and that won't work except for those who are too stupid or lazy to circumvent it.
I'm trying to remember the **** Kim Schmitz pulled years ago . .
There were infinite threads about it here . . way way back in the days.
Long story about the arrests etc here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/62...et-back-online
Taking thread more oftopic perhaps, but since SOPA PIPA is in the freeze for now I think I'll wager it..
Never mind, could have just searched for it: http://www.antionline.com/search.php?searchid=551103 (does such a link work?)
Hey, Jinxy,
I think that you are closer to the target than you think?
http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/20/meg...ent-education/
and:
http://gizmodo.com/5877836/why-did-t...ad-and-why-now
Happy New Year folks........... in Europe we are financially bankrupt.......... in America you are morally, socially and intellectually bankrupt......... and most certainly legislatively?.........:D
So, a happy Chinese New Year to you all.......... by the end of it I expect that what we both have left will have been outsourced there anyways?
RIAA = RICA
MPAA = MPCA
Strange that the Chinese don't seem to give a rodent's rectum about copyright?.....................well, other people's that is.
And the last half dozen or so motherboards I have bought were made in Vietnam......... time to fight back huh?
:)
Kimble was phreaking back in the day. He paid script kiddies to phreak/hack large corporations then he swooped in like Johnny Goodboy and saved the day. The other love in his life, insider trading, was also profitable but he got busted and got off light. Embezzeling monies was also profitable but again carried light penalties. One year at defcon he got arrested for public intoxication and indecency. A group of his friends tried to bully a bunch of us and Kimbo was the loudest so he got busted. His posse rolled away like he was an old apple IIc. Ah the good ole days of drunken defcons... I forget the year but one speaker had a 3 piece suit on but the nipples were cut out and pierced. If I recall correctly he was also the fed in spot the fed...
I find it odd in the whole megaspload incident that Swizz Beatz wasnt included in the fun of arrests and such. He was listed as CEO... Looks like ole Kimbo got set up real good. The only gumballs he'll be seeing are the anal beads coming out of his arse...
It isn't really, as this is all about making money out of the distribution of copyrighted materials.Quote:
I find it odd in the whole megaspload incident that Swizz Beatz wasnt included in the fun of arrests and such. He was listed as CEO..
Swizz was ignored because:
1. He wasn't on the payroll.
2. He didn't own any stocks or equity.
3. He had no demonstrable influence on MU policy or operations.
The FEDs aren't going to risk screwing up what seems a pretty good case by trying to involve people outside of the mainstream who cannot be clearly demonstrated to have materially benefited from the alleged wrondoings ;)
From the subsequent reactions of other file repository services it would seem that several of them were at it to some extent?
However, they weren't so blatant, and have a leader with previous criminal convictions.
I am surprised at the New Zealanders though, as I always understood that they had pretty strict firearms laws..............over here he would be looking at 14 years for illegal possession and 7 years for a shotgun with a barrel length of under 20"...............no need to even apply for bail :D
"Beatz has not been accused of criminal wrong-doing, but he's helping to fight the Universal battle at the moment."
There are alot in the music biz that think piracy is a good thing. It helps promote music in ways people wouldnt be exposed to certain tracks via main stream outlets. I think he's singing, no pun intended, his way out of any trouble. Plus the fact the feds are going for the foreign entities that purposely defy copyrighted materials, period. If you're in cohoots with drug dealers you are going to be looked at mighty close. The feds have been watching this thing long enough to get the whole picture (damn the puns)
1. I think Beatz did get paid a boatload of cash. His wife, Alicia Keys did work on the promo video. You know it wasn't for free. I suspect thats were the CEO position was mentioned.
2. I agree here because that would have been traced
3. This would be combined with 1 but its all for naught.
I think the feds used the gun to get the NZ gov to be so gung ho on the whole deal.
In the US you can own a sawed off shotgun, or rifle or a minigun. They are not illegal or banned, they are regulated and you have to get a license for each and every one. This varies state to state. I have a friend in Utah who got caught without a license and did 3 years...
Hmmm, the UK press are reporting that it is Schmitz's bodyguard who is facing the firearms raps.
I think that is why Beatz is there..........there was some "Megabox" project or whatever to apparently do just that sort of thing. I think that would explain Beatz's involvement as Schmitz would need a figurehead with street cred in the music business.Quote:
It helps promote music in ways people wouldn't be exposed to certain tracks via main stream outlets.
Sure he got paid for his high profile promotional work......and he has accounted for every last penny...........hey, it wasn't the FBI who put Al Capone in Joliet for 11 years now, was it :lildevil:
What I would like to know is if there are any entries for "fruit and flowers" in the books of Megaupload? ;)
Many years ago I was financial accountant for a recording label in the UK :D...................
For those who don't know; F & F means "drugs, alcohol and ladies of negotiable virtue" :eek:
I don't know if this link will work? If not then just search for Kimble on the site.......... the thread goes back to when I was just a lurker here :D
http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?t=218106
What goes around comes around? :eek: 10 years later.....