Phone/tablet OS that won't intrude

Hi all!

I know very little of Cyber Security, hence have no idea how easy or difficult my question is.
My friends presented me a teblet with Android OS. What enraged me was the fact that I had to register with Google to even use a calendar!! Let alone listen to the music. For each application download I have to log in to Google.
My understanding is that "they" collect information on you anyway, but hey, what Google does is a bit over the top. That all fell on the fertile ground of what the likes of Assange and Bill Binney are saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VMExwGhsU

So, I'm looking for a new phone, that won't have Android with its intrusion. But - what about other OSs? Perhaps they're just as restrictive? Thanks for the advice.

P.S. I've been thinking of using Tor, but I don't understand how they can build applications for anonymity on top of Android. Isn't it absurd?

Google will require you to log in regardless what you use to connect to them. Phone and or computers would be the same.

But do I have to connect to Google? If I use a different OS I don't have to log in to Google to use a calendar or download an application, right?

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Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

Google will require you to log in regardless what you use to connect to them. Phone and or computers would be the same.

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If you want to use YOUR calendar and not my calendar or anyone elses - you have to log into Your account.

You must be missing my point, Steve.
I'm not talking about a Google calendar. What I want is a calendar or a music player that would work just like on a simple computer. You download it (often without registering anywhere) and use it.
On my tablet or phone I want to have applications that won't make me log in to third-party websites, Google included.

My Android smartphone came with a Calendar already installed. If your tablet didn't, you should be able to find one through the PlayStore.

If you pick an Android tablet, you have to deal with Google. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick an Apple tablet, you have to deal with Apple. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick a Windows tablet, you will have to deal with Microsoft. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick a Kindle tablet, you will have to deal with Amazon. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you find a worthwhile tablet that doesn't have an OS made by one of these four companies, please let me know. It is the price you pay for the "convenience".

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Westin, that's exactly what I'm talking about. However (I'm actually looking for a phone now, but I guess they use same OSs) - how intrusive are other OSs?
Will a Windows OS, for example (I'm thinking of an HTC), require me to have an account with them, download apps only through this account and so on?

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Originally Posted by westin

If you pick an Android tablet, you have to deal with Google. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick an Apple tablet, you have to deal with Apple. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick a Windows tablet, you will have to deal with Microsoft. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you pick a Kindle tablet, you will have to deal with Amazon. Yes, they will collect your information.

If you find a worthwhile tablet that doesn't have an OS made by one of these four companies, please let me know. It is the price you pay for the "convenience".

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Unfortunately, I think they all require that you have an account. How else are they going to track your interests so that they can better advertise to you? I don't know that you are going to have much luck finding a smart phone that isn't just a little bit evil.

Windows requires that you have an account before you can download apps, etc. [At least that is the way I understand it.]

Thank you for replies. It would be great to know for sure if all OS are more or less the same as far as collecting data goes.
Can this post be moved/duplicated to OS forum section please?

Yea they all require your to have an account with them. Google being the most intrusive though. I would really stay away from Android. Blackberry is pretty non intrusive. They don't have the app support like Android and Apple though. Their tablet is pretty decent and it pairs with the phone. But they too require an account to use. I would just make a dummy account if your that concerned with your privacy. As far as Other OS's go, you can just install a firewall or use your router to monitor inbound and outbound traffic to determine who is phoning home. Linux is probably the safest solution. Don't know too much bout Macs.

Thank you.

Maybe a bit late to answer this, but if you get one of the older Samsung smart phones somthing like a Wave-GT-s8500 then yes you can have your callender, memos, tasks, etc, etc. on your own phone without connecting to anywhere. You only connect to google or wherever when you want to. (I even have mine set so that it wont connect through 3G but only through wi-fi so I dont get any any data charges on the mobile account).

The newer Samsungs such as the Galaxy S3 & S4 do require you to register through google so you will have to search the shops for an older model or get one second hand.

Hi nukecad, and welcome to AO :)

Yes, you were a bit late in your reply, from a time viewpoint, but you did add good additional information, and thus contribute to the thread.

Thanks for that :)

Lake District huh?................. what sort of winter did you guys have? over here on the North East coast it was the windiest I have ever experienced................. the damn house played more tunes than a church organ :p

Cheers,

Johnno

Hi Johnno,

Yes, it was very wet over here, thats where the lakes come from, and windy too; luckily I live near the coast (a mile and a half from St Bees) so we dont get the snow like they do further inland.
The clouds pass over us then hit the mountains and drop snow meters deep while we stay clear.

Dont know what the snow was like in Bridlington but a friend at Wheatley Hill, near Sunderland, was snowed into his remote house for a week and a half.

Hi, Now a days samsung galaxy is the best smartphone i can vote for it..as it contains all features ready and no need to register for each n small application.yes i agree with nukecad..Thats great phone ever.




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hello, Hi to all now a days Samsung android phone having lot of features, its include some of the android special applications are available. so much of people try to get Samsung phone. this attracts more number of people.

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Just revisiting this thread.

Yes the Galaxys are great phones but the original point was that they use Googles Android OS & want you to log in to Google all the time.
The Wave series use Samsungs Bada OS & dont ask you to log in to anything you dont want to.

Thank you for all the info guys! Love this forum!