TCP/IP Books [And A Network Hub]

I have two questions for experienced network administrators and people who install networks etc... I'm trying to put together a working home network (which I've more or less succeeded in doing) but now I want to know how it works... in detail.

To this end:

[1] Can anyone recommend any books on TCP/IP??

and

[2] If 2 computers have 100MB/S net cards, and one has a 10MB/S net card, if they are connected to one single hub, will the whole network be limited to 10MB/S or will only the data going down that one cable be 10MB/S and everywhere else 100MB/S (i.e. 100->100 will work @ 100 but 100->10 only at 10, or will the whole thing have to operate at 10MB/S)

The 100MB/S net cards are capable of 10MB/S operation since they do that when connected with crossover cable to the 10MB/S card!

You're LAN connection will be 10mb/s, but outside of that it will be limited to whatever your connection is. I'll send you some books via email if I can find your email addy.

I can recommend "TCP/IP Primer Plus" ISBN 0-672-32208-0, Sams Publishing 2002.

And for two, buy a 100mbit card for that last computer, and don't worry about it. Those things cost next to nothing nowadays.

my e-mail address is chronatonburst@hotmail.com

and its not the cost of a 100MB/S card thats the problem... its space inside the computer

The 10MB/S is onboard and all the available PCI slots are taken up by other stuff (sound & graphics cards!)

here is a good one,

TCP/IP illustrated (The Protocols)Volume 1

W. Richards Stevens.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...900853-8696626

Also check out "Inside TCP/IP Third Edition" It's a thick hardback, but it's got specifics about packet construction as well as information about different protocols that use TCP/IP.

ISBN 1-56205-714-6

You may want to check to see if it is up to a higher edition. I bought mine a year or so ago.

Happy Hacking

another good book is:

tcp/ip volume1 from douglas e. comer
isbn 0-13-019353-4

Hi Rewandythal!

Here are some good tcp/ip books which you might want to check out from O'reilly:

1)TCP/IP Network Administration, 2nd Edition(By Craig Hunt)
2) Internet Core Protocols: The Definitive Guide
Help for Network Administrators (By Eric Hall)

Aside from these books. Here is a link that contains a long list of books on TCP/IP, networking....etc. : www.computerhelp.net/bookcat/tcp_ip.html

Have a nice day! :)

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hi there,
i see everyone has recommened a lot of books..and one of the replies did mention TCP/IP illustrated volume by Richard Steven..
i am as much a book enthusiast as i am a networking enthusiast..
i only want to reiterate that the above mentioned book is a must read and once when you are through with that volume 2 and 3 will also be good , especially if you are into network programming..

the book will give you a packet by packet description of everything that goes on inside a network..so do buy TCP/IP illustrated volume 1 by richard stevens..

with regards
scorpion

Thanks! I will go and buy that book as soon as I can afford it!

good question I was interested in learning about this too because I just got this server called NetFrame and to tell you the truth I never had any experance in running a real server before you know. A good freind of mine who works at my works help desk told me if it was a 100/10 it runs like this one at 100 and the rest at 10. I dont know how true that is. if you find out any different let me know. thanks

Your network should run at 100 exept for the one computer that has the 10 based connection. The speed of your network depends on the hub if it is 10/100 based then it will run all the computers at 10 and 100, depending on the computers card. The computers that have 10 based cards will run at 10 and the 100's will run at 100. Unless you try accessing the slower computer over the network then it will only go at 10.

right ok. thanks for the advice and information about the books and the hub!

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Originally posted by Rewandythal
now I want to know how it works... in detail.

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Just wanted to add something..... My experience after reading books like those mentioned over is they don't really explain the mystery of how packets are routed across the internet. Not in detail, anyway. If you really wanna dig deep, look for books about 'algorithm analysis' especially graph algorithms (for example shortest path algorithms). That will give you a more thorough understanding of how the stuff works. But you might need some programming experience if you're going to learn it by yourself, as it is quite difficult and hard to understand.

I have (limited) programming experience, and I am trying to get to grips with network programming to write a portscanner, traceroute, ping, whois etc. "NetTools" all-in-one program as a personal project. This is why I want to know as much as possible about TCP/IP

And I find that the best way to learn is to teach myself... to read and practice until I know exactly what's going on at any given point in the subject I'm trying to learn.

That's the only way.... ;) If you're into programming you're gonna stumble upon algorithms and advanced data structures sometime or another. They ususally offer courses in school to when you reach a certain level, too. I think it can be useful to have someone explain stuff to you face to face, especially when I find it difficult to understand. Coming here asking questions i smart, though, as good information can be hard to find on your own. At this board it seems whatever you ask, someone has been there before and can give you hints.

If you want to write communication software I can recommend using Visual C++ if your're working on the windows platform. They have an object called CSockets if I remember correct, which gives you easy access to port-to-port programming.

To be honest I'd rather use Borland C++ builder for two reasons, firstly I've used it several times before in making a word processor for my sister to use and in doing several other projects, and secondly because its non-Microsoft-made.

Borland is good and probably has similar libraries. I'm still learning VC++ since I'm into COM+ programming and I think only Visual Basic and VC++ support COM+. I'd like to try Builder since I started programming with the Borland C++ IDE a few years ago, and I love the interface.

If you find support for COM+ in Builder, post a note! :D

By the way, does anyone know of any issues running Borland C++ builder 3 Pro on Windows XP??

I installed it, it worked fine for a while then the whole thing died, and BCB was the last change I made so i attributed it to that and havent installed BCB again after reinstalling XP.

okies
for all you people that wanted the ebooks of tcp/ip im having a lil trouble with my email
i cant get it to load any email attachments or id alreay have them sent
everytime i try to add anything the javascript takes me back to my homepage
ive tried using mozilla, netscape, opera and everything ive got the newest versions and all the plugins
so i thought
i download them and install but grrrrrrr
it still says i dont have them
wth

anyways i tried uploading the books here
but theyre toooo big
sorry folks
when i reboot linux
ill try in windows
im going for some mad uptime