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Hey all, Im looking for anyone who has disassebled a Kds valiant laptop. I believe that the cpu heatsink fans are cloged with dust and lint. Im willing to call someone in the continental U.S.
Ive googled my eyeballs out for a site with a disassembly manual or how to get at the heatsink. No luck so far. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I don't think you will find any manuals apart from one on creative accountancy: :D
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/33-8104.htm
And the Korean parent co. is not much better, as they haven't filed financials for three years............just as they claimed to have broken even.
http://www.corporateinformation.com/...usip=C410K6570
I believe they dropped out of the laptop market in 2002, which from the second link would seem to be when the company was restructured? There are no support sites that I am aware of, so it would seem that the business was not sold on?
I would suggest trying this:
1. Lift lid and slide back hinge covers.
2. Remove power button panel.
3. Remove keyboard screws.
4. Lift keyboard up and out.
WARNING! On some models you also have to lift the left shift key and remove the small screw under there ;)
That should get you into the guts of the machine, after that you are on your own.
From what little I remember they had the same reputation as Packard Bell (before NEC bought them out).
Good luck!
Incidentally, sometimes a powerful vacuum cleaner will do the job.
Thanks a bunch. the laptop company was called KDS computers. WOW i had no idea that kds stood for Korea data systems. Crazy commy pinko's.
well im going to bring the laptop with me to technical skool today so i can get the A+ teacher to watch me and make sure i dont fux up too bad.
Yes, actually they are South Korean.
Used to be very big in VDUs with about 3,500,000 units a year. Back in the late 1990's they teamed up with another Korean outfit (Trigem) to manufacture and sell "e-machines". Apart from the SEC business, they had copyright problems with Compaq and possibly Apple ;)
Remember that there may be a small screw under the left-hand upper shift key. :)
well the fan wasn't clogged. It now seems the problem is the fan sensor. So i guess the laptop is permanently out of commission, unless someone has an extra one they dont want.
xenogamer,
I am guessing that it is one of those stupid "two little fans in a plastic mounting that only we have forgotten how to source; and by the way, we went out of business five years ago" ? :D
I did hear tell of one of those changing hands for $90 (USD!!!!!) about 4 years ago.
Please tell me what happens when you power it up............. you didn't mention it in your earlier posts.
A ray of hope might be if the BIOS allows you to set the fan speed detection mode. Like if the sensor has crapped out and you can set "autodetect" to "off", then the damn thing should just run at full belt all the time?
Otherwise look at stripping it and selling the parts on e-bay (:chuck:)
No, I have not lost my sanity, just take a look at this for a "reconditioned" 3.5" floppy drive!!!!
http://www.codemicro.com/store/check...?partid=896803
Hell, where I live, I would expect them to throw the whole laptop in for that?
Incidentally, you said:
What makes you think that? Also, what sensor are you talking about?........the fan's RPM or the CPU temperature?Quote:
It now seems the problem is the fan sensor
A bit after turning it on there is a small square that pop's up with a thermomiter with a circle with a slash thought it (like the ghostbuster symbol) I flipped though the bios and cant find any thing dealing with fans :(
EDIT:
OMFG i found the fan control in the bios but the enter and up down keys dont work. Even when i plug in a different key board. This is really pissing me off.
EDIT:
Reseated the ribbon cable for the keyboard and it started working again. so woot. ill post an update about changing the fan setting in a bit. Before it was set to quiet mode now im changing it to performance mode.
Well, that certainly sounds like an improvement? I would think that the "performance" setting will have the fan going at full speed.
I am sorry, but I have only worked on about 4 of these things ever. two of them were German and marketed under a different name. I honestly can't remember the models :( All I ever did was upgrade memory/HDDs.......... I think one had a dead HDD?
Is there some sort of "PC health" setting? There might be a cut-off temperature setting in there........... try 49/50C if you can. This might be in a manufacturer's management package?
If you have attempted to overclock it please stop now! bog standard lappies are NOT for overclocking. I mean the video as well as the CPU!!!
Hey! chill out man! I haven't told you to dig out your Dremel yet have I? :D
Please keep me informed :thumbsup:
lol i wouldnt dream of oc'ing this junker :P
no pc health option :(
still cuts off after a lil bit. :(
OK, time for a different move?
The machine is a PIII/800MHz so it is probably 6 years old or more?
I would try removing the heatsink and cleaning its base, and the top of the processor. Then replace the thermal paste/grease with some silver based stuff like Antec or Arctic Silver. that stuff is like twenty times more effective than the white gunk that is used as standard.
Please follow the instructions very carefully as it is as bad to have too much as too little.
Remember that 6 years is quite a good life for a laptop, and certainly for standard thermal grease.
;)
EDIT: I am guessing that your thermal sensor is actually working OK. In my experience when they fail they actually stop recording and just leave you exposed to frying things.
I have never seen one go defective by recording falsely high temperatures.
So, if you fans are actually working, that would suggest that there is inadequate heat transference between the CPU and the heatsink......... hence the replace thermal grease idea.
N.B. You may not actually have any thermal grease there at all............ it might be a thermal patch that has perished/deteriorated. You would need to remove that and replace it with the silver grease.
Already did that at tech school :P im thinking the next step is a repalcement heatsink/fan combo
Sorry, I forgot you went to tech school and have an A+ guy to advise you.
Have you tried taking the fan/heatsink assembly and soaking it in kerosene (paraffin as we call it over here) or JP4 if you are a Top Gun Jock :D
It might flush some cobwebs out of the fan(s)................... if you swish it around and leave it overnight.
Let it dry naturally for a day or two............... an old watchmaker's trick I picked up years ago ;)
Is it a standard type fan/HS assembly? if it is, then a replacement unit would be easier.
its a proprietary fan. :(
i was bidding on another valiant on ebay, but it went out of my price range. So im just going to sell it on ebay. Thank you sooo much for the help nihil your da bomb.
kk Well after posting it on ebay. the next day i get a message from a buyer and this is what it says:
Hello Mate,i will like to buy your item for my friend son as a birthday gift,who i promise a gift when chatting online last night,So I will like to offer you $1900USD
including the shipping cost for youritem?i will arange payment through a (PAYPAL).
I will like you to ship the item through (United State Postal Service(EMS)OR U.P.S which you
will take to any post office/agent in your area and for shipment immediately
,thanks and expecting your reply.So Let me have your Full email address in which
you want your money ,and you will be very happy for transacting with me and
kindly include your e mail for further contact.
My regards
(lists his email here)
now here is the auction number so you can look at the item: 270134031015
Why on earth would some one pay that much for a non working laptop! another working laptop :http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2578&rd=1&rd=1
sold for 3grand. WTF!!!! its a junker. you could buy 3 amazing toshiba laptops at best buy for that much.
i sent the guy a message back, asking for a phone number to contact him at to make sure that he is indeed a real person not a bot. I looked at his feedback. He has 3 items of feedback and has 100 Percent positive.
Anyone got any advice or i dono something?
Hmmmmm,
"Terribly sorry but I could only send $2500, please send the computer and the difference to: Abdul KoKopop, Lagos, Nigeria"
If it looks too good to be true............ IT IS!!!!
Never assume that people are more stupid than yourself, they generally are not? ;)
Look at the grammar & syntax?Quote:
Hello Mate,i will like to buy your item for my friend son as a birthday gift,who i promise a gift when chatting online last night,So I will like to offer you $1900USD
Take care young friend, the net is a wild place :D
i also had the sam problem/laptop. i got mine for 30$ not working at a garage sale. anyways i fixed mine by simply taking out the battery and starting it up with out it. now running xp with no video drivers:) btw u can get new battery on ebay for 30$