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hi,
I have a problem , there are two hard disks that I have : when I boot my computer with each hard disk individually it says
Novel netware some version
VIA technolgies network adpter
analyzing network files .......
Starts some RPC-FFC :0
and then goes on till 100 and then starts all over again.
What can it be ? has the hard disk crashed
MRG.
What OS are you running?
What do you have the pin settings on the individual HD's?
- MilitantEidolon
I don't know, There are no Jumpers on thehard disk, About the oS i don't know for it's not booting up, These are of some one else.
MRG.
First off it is a normal HD you will have pins and a jumper and this jumper will be positioned to tell the computer what priority it should take.
Also, if you do not need to access the HD I would format them anyway. If there is no need for the information on them.
Also if you do not have an OS just boot up with the new OS and it should be able to format it for you.
- Militant
booting from NIC?Quote:
Check your BIOS boot parameters.
I tried that, it 's been setup to boot from the hard disk, then i tried one more thing: I put in the win 2k server and it said that there are no hard disks detected in the system. Has my hard disk crashed ?
MRG.
Check the ide cable to make sure it is all the way in on the motherboard and harddrive and check to see if there is a little notch on the connector of the cable if not try flipping the cable around also make sure the power connector is snug also and then try it.
Enter you Sys Bios and check to make sure that you have set your HD and then check you boot config in the bios and make sure it is booting to your 3 1/2, HD and IDE (CDROM).
After this I would double check the jumper settings (make sure one is set to master and one is set to either slave or Cable Select (CS).
- MilitantEidolon
err... HD should be detect by bios or bios cant boot from HD...
every bios nowadays has a "detect disk drive" option. run it and see if bios can detect HD. If not....
Your HDs are not SCSI, are they?
I did try all these options the cable is plugged in the mother board,
The buos is et to detect from the hard disk
Do you have the power cable plugged into the HD?
- MilitantEidolon
yes of course
if bios cant detect, it cant boot.
if bios can detect, a O.S. must be present on that HD. otherwise it cant boot from it (obviously)
if you have plugged all cables, in correct sequence, and bios cant see that disk, disk is f....ed. or MB.
Is there no way to recover the data then ? i don't want to try the expensive data recvery soultions.
Plaese help.
MRG.
hmmm...what type of drives are these ATA or SCSI?
Because your MotherBoard may not be able to use them?
- MilitantEidolon
ATA
MRG.
If is it ATA then you should have a jumper that is on the back... And it should select what role that HD is to take. After the jumper is set you computer should recognize it. However, you say there is no jumper?
- MilitantEidolon
I have tried with jumper also, but still it doesnot work, for i have done some thing like thius:
got a working hard disk and made it as primary and then took this hard disk amde it as slave, it didn't detect the slave.
MRG.
So "He is dead Jim"
just bury it on your backyard... :(
Im sorry.
You can also go to a repair shop and try to fix it or recover its contents, but i think that will be expensive...
Some things you can try which work every now and then:
1) Toss the hd in the freezer for a couple hours then plug it back in and see if it recognizes it
2) Bang it around a bit then try it
3) Try another controller card of the same type and model hard drive
If those dont work there is the tried and true swearing and throwing things around.
please check the jumper settings and bios settings of your hard disk. thats when u get to decide if u want it as a primary slave or master etc... have u tried scanning your hard disk for viruses and for physical errors? Try this site, it might just help. www.bootdisk.com
Another thing you could try is to go to the HD manufacturer’s web site and see if the have a bootable diagnostic program to download, and/or swap out the HD, if you have one kickin around, to see if it is something to do with your cables or MBoard.
Good Luck
1. Has this system ever worked?
2. I gather that neither HDD will boot, if you just install one of them as the master?
3. From your first post that mentions "Novell" it sounds as if your system is looking for a network?
4. Will your system boot normally, with another HDD?
5. How big are the HDDs?
6. Can you try them in another computer (as slaves)?
Cheers
Hi,
the system has worked before
The sytem doesnot recognize the hard disks, if I were to put in a win dows 2000 pro bootable Cd and then boot I get the message that there are no hard disk installed on the system.
they are 10.2 Gb each
i tried them on anther computer as slaves still does not work.
From Novel i gather that they are trying to boot from the network, but i didn't change any thing in the BIOS.
Hmmmmmmmmmm,
Did you have some sort of power supply problem or a thunderstorm before this happened?
It just seems odd that you lost them both at once?
One thing that you might try is to get the installation and diagnostics tool from the HDD manufacturer..............if you boot from it (you create a bootable floppy), it should find the HDD and let you check it for errors.
I can understand the network thing if you have a "check for other bootable devices" option set to "yes"
Otherwise, if you cannot find a machine that at least recognises that there is a HDD there, there is nothing you can do. I can recommend data recovery software, but there is no point if you cannot see a drive to recover from?
Cheers
No i didn't have any supply or thunderstorm problem. yes it is odd that both of them crashed at the same time. i can try the diagnostic tools.
Thanks.
MRG.
Hi,
You say:
By that do you mean that you are the second owner?, in which case have you (personally) ever seen them working?Quote:
About the oS i don't know for it's not booting up, These are of some one else.
Does your machine work with another HDD in it?...............if it does, then that suggests that the motherboard, power supply, RAM and HDD cable are OK.
If you got these drives second hand, it is common practice to wipe the drive first. This protects personal data and avoids problems with software licences.
There is software that performs this task, but it can take rather a long time to run, if someone has tried a shortcut such as using a high intensity electro-magnetic field, then they may have killed the HDDs in the process.
Can you check this out with whoever you got them from?
Cheers
Yes basically these HDD are of my frinds, and yes I have seen them working, RAM, power supply evrything is OK, These HDD were new.
MRG.
OK,
Please try the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic and installation tools, as already suggested.
A bit of a weird one, but also try setting both jumpers to "CS" (cable select) and see if the BIOS understands them then.
What make/model of HDD are they and what machine (make/model) did they come out of?
The only other thing I can think of is that some viruses will zap the first 1024Kb of a drive...........but I would still expect the BIOS to see that it was there.
When you try to boot up with one of these drives, do you see the HDD light flickering, and there is frequently a little light on the HDD controller card.............does that light up (you may have to peer in through the cover...........and make sure that the HDD is level when you do that, and don't move it!!!)
Also, does the BIOS make any bleeping noises...........if so, how many, and what make/version of BIOS is it?
Have these drives been subjected to extreme climatic conditions?............like left in the trunk (boot) of a car in mid-winter (sorry, not sure what climate you have).
I will wait for your report of the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic/installation software test.........
This one is really starting to interest me :D , well I am sorry that we haven't managed to get your HDDs working yet, but it does seem technically intriguing.
Good luck
PS. Sorry about the delays in replying, we are obviously in quite different timezones..........a bit like playing postal chess :)
Thanks for your help!!!
The hard disk are from two different companies 1. fijutsu 2. samsung,
I do a see a light glowing when I boot the hard disk, It glows continuously and I hear two beeps after booting them.
Please try here:
http://www.fcpa.com/support/hard-dri...utilities.html
That's Fujitsu.
And here:
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/na...ort_search.jsp
For Samsung
Two bleeps sounds like one two many, what version and make is it...............usually appears in white letters on black just when you boot up.
Also did you try setting them both to cable select?
Cheers