I agree with Sadaam being a madman and a being a very dangerous man with his diplomatic talks. Bush is onthe other hand even more dangerous, because he can be the same with diplomatic talk, but has a much more threatening (proven!) nuclear arsenal. I read this kind of stories about 10 times now and like people in this thread said already, were's the evidence ? Because of some satalite pictures indicating possible terrorist training locations they also bombed half Afghanistan to. The only prove I saw of that was the talks they had... saying they "can't tell everything"... They really have to do better. I prefer only looking at what people do instead of only looking at what they say. I don't say America is all bad, but is this a reason to talk any country, wheter it is Iraq or any other country. If I had satalite pictures of the US for example I could also point at some place were you could have a terrorist trainings camp. In the US there are better facilities for it to.
Originally posted here by Tedob1
Powell lays out U.S. case:
i believe him! I believe everything he says here.
Ive had my doubts up until now. not about saddam but about going to war without UN approval to stop him. saddam is a bad man with or without a war but now i think the line is drawn. he will be stopped.
i pray it will be fast and complete and the innocent will be spared but there's no doubt in my mind now. were marching.
Also, we are so pissed off that the al Qaeda terrorists bombed the USA, but they make no mention that the USA gave them guns and trained them years ago to fight dictatorships. Its such a double standard.
Mass distruction weapons in the hands of a madman isn't a good thing, but who gave them the building plans and the ideas ? Who gave them weapons ? Why isn't a country not directly allied to the US allowed to have nukes (for example north Korea, I can understand in a case like Sadaam) ?
i hate the idea of war... be it against iraq or anyone else... i dont think we need to kill poeple for any reason that has been presented before the U.N. . I think it is ridiculus that anyone can be all for death and systematic use of OUR weapons because they used they're god givin right to build some to match ours...
i mustof fell asleep or something but wasen't the war on terror against al quida? how did it shift from al quida to Iraq? did anyone relize this? im concerned for thewell being of the earth afterwe kill more poeple to lower gas prices... because 1.50 is too expensive in the U.S. when they pay 4 dollars and up in europe... just a thought...
I also still didn't see any indication that al qa'ida is in iraq. Btw... I didn't even see any real proof of al qa'ida being responsible for the attack to the WTC. People might be having a party, but does that mean the whole coutry has a party ? Does that mean all poor farmers even care about that WTC. Wich in fact is only making them poorer because of the alliances it makes between rich countries. National banks of those rich countries still earn money from poor countries depts and the ... I don't know how it's called, but it's the extra money the bank you lend money from can ask from you, just for lending the money ... Those depts and things are big percentages of the lands total money production, so in this way they never get it payed back.
How reasonable is it of the USA to start a war without any permission or agreement on the UN part ... What worth does an instantion like UN have f a superpower like USA can just step asside for a minute and attack some countrys and then come back again... Sort of laughing at that UN "Hah look at you silly boys 'n galls I can do it all by myself" Time for the netherlands and every other slef respecting country to leave that UN and start something else, or just kick out the US... altough USA might be the biggest sponsor.
I had some more things, but I forgot them in the meanwhile :/ I'll ad them later when I remember again...
Here they are, the things I forgot about:
In the article they talk about the intentional distraction from Iraq citizens of the inspections. Why is that a reason to think they hide something ? The inspectors can just come about everywere and those citizens can't stop them. If they use weapons and force to really keep them away from specific place, you could start to think that. Just keep going on with those inspections.
from a french article: http://www.liberation.fr.page.php?Article=85903
I'm not real good in french, but I use two little pieces translated in english
exaggerated, "possible" ?
the FBI and the CIA estimated that the Bush administration "exaggerated" on a possible relation between Saddam and the terrorist network of Bin Laden
the UN doesn't agree, there's proof of that
eleven members out of fifteen, whose France, Russia and China, decided for the continuation of the inspections
Thanks for all replies so far
I'm not an america hater, altough maybe it sometimes looks like. I just want to discuss the points I have and make thing clear to anyone who's interested still... Opinions from both sites and I respect them all.