I think part of your "problem" is that you are equating this stuff to today when you should be looking back into history to determine "why" religion came about. In short, the moment any species stops contemplating their navel and begins to question their origin without any factual basis there is nowhere for the conclusion to end up except at a point where "reasonable assumptions" fill in for unknown fact thus leading down a flawed path of logic to the "fairy tales". That's not too difficult to grasp now is it..... ;) Furthermore it is perfectly logical for this to occur. Until other species begin, (and maybe some have and believe that there is a supreme being), to contemplate their origin then, yes, we will be the only species requiring a "fairy tale" to live in an ordered society.
But that answer stops short for me. The period comes too soon. That means our species is the only species that requires a lie to survive as a community. In order for us to evolve as an ordered society, we have had to build upon fairy tales. Is this truly logical?
The word "apparently" tells all for you there.... You have no fact to back that up so you are placing "reasonable assumption" and then running the path of logic to a potentially flawed conclusion.
following apparently pre-programmed instinct draw to the basic same conclusions, with only details differing? Is this logical? Or is this a genetic arrow pointing in the direction of something much higher and very creative?
I did no such thing. I made no conclusion based on the fact that all cups claim to hide the prize. I was not limited by a box that led me to look into all the cups. I took a more direct approach and looked at the claims for the prize and determined that the prize itself was flawed so it doesn't matter which cup I find it under it isn't the prize that was advertized.
However, you conclude preemptively that since all cups claim to hide that prize, that therefore there really is no prize...when in fact one of them does have the prize, you just have to find it through a process of critical thought, testing, and deduction.
I would agree with that statement but I would add that it teaches you to think for yourself within the confines of the expectation that the prize is as advertized. Since you have that expectation you are in a box and that box limits your thought process to the single conclusion that a supreme being exists. You aren't considering the possibility that one doesn't. You have made up your mind and refuse to test the theory any further..... That's bad science.
I'd suggest, it's an exercise to teach you how to think for yourself.
This begs the questions:-
Mine is the only one that answers all my questions; the others have failed one way or another.
1. All your questions.... What about all _the_ questions?
2. Have you ever asked the question "What if I'm wrong, what is the alternative?"
Endorphins are wonderful things..... Go for a run.... You'll get the same effect.... ;)
only demonstrated and experienced.
See above.... You are escaping nothing since all your thoughts revolve around the existence of a supreme being your box is laid out for you right there. I have no box. I worked from a question not a premise, "is there a supreme being?" as opposed to your system where you ask "which is the supreme being?"
And that's how I'm escaping both boxes of religion and faithlessness.
Not being "pissy" but, for the second time I have faith, therefore I am not faithless..... The fact that what I have faith in is a perfectly reasonable belief that the answers to all things are out there and do not require the intervention of a supreme being and when we are advanced enough we will understand our universe, where it came from and why it is here. Is that such an awful thing to believe?
So, you've chosen your _life_ and the tool with which it is governed. But should you become disillusioned you still have choices.....
I can't switch because it defies the logic I've discovered.
Don't ever take up computer forensics..... <LOL> What you say here is that you will make the evidence fit the scenario.... That's bad science and even worse investigatory technique because you will convict the wrong person of the crime.
Just because something isn't explainable doesn't mean God did it. First, you have to look at each instance, and way all the possible causes, then deduce which one fits. In the right cases, God fits, though the other options are possible at first assessment -- but the other options fail to answer the questions that the "God puzzle piece" does. As the great Sherlock said, once all possibilties have been knocked out, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be true.
Just because a piece fits into a jigsaw puzzle does not mean it is the correct piece for that puzzle. It could, quite conceivably be the correct shape and fit exactly, but it comes from another puzzle and the picture, while appearing correct is wrong in some small area.
Sherlock, while being quite remarkable was also flawed..... The number of possibilities relies entirely upon information. Each peice of information represents a possibility. But if you lack a peice of information then your improbable truth may not be the truth - it would simply be the only remaining conclusion that could be drawn - regardless of it's accuracy.
We've discussed this.... Order is an illusion. The universe is in chaos. It's just that chaos does not change rapidly thus there appears to be order where there is none.
Logic -- when we see order and beauty, no matter how subjectively we each see it -- there's always creativity behind it. So why is the big picture the exception? Why is the big picture the only picture that does not have a painter? Is this logical?
What creativity? The beauty I see is from the randomness of chaos that allows the evolution of species that succeed in their environment. Within each species the ability to evolve is also the result of chaos that allow the species to mutate slightly and then if the mutation succeeds then it has evolved, if not the species, (or that mutation), dies. There's nothing "creative" about it.... It's marvellous.... But it's chaos.
You don't know the half of it.... Step out of your box and look around for a while if you want to really understand how insignificant and irrelevant we really are in the universe. <LOL>
Furthermore, my belief only continues to reinforce how inadequate and lacking of control I really am.
This is one of my sides morons that I alluded to in a previous post..... He's not prepared to broaden his horizons by reading what was written he simply wished to be rude and obnoxious and tell you to leave him alone. You see he feels threatened by you because he understands his limited intellect would not be able to withstand your superior reasoning ability and he would end up wasting his time in church every sunday instead of getting rid of the hangover he got on saturday night.
Once again, I don't feel like reading all the post so, here's the sum up. **** your religion. If you choose to believe it, fine, but don't make everybody else adhere to the rules set up by the bullshit you believe.
Demonic, you're a ****wit. The reasons you won't read the posts are twofold:-
1. Many words have more than five letters.....
2. Even if you could read the words the concepts would require you to go back and get your GED before you could understand them.....
Go away little boy.....
Angelic: Yeah, even with the customary moron it appears we are the only two enjoying the conversation.....