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I would advice people to stop using all firewalls though as once a firewall is studyed by the right person , holes that people never knew about could be discovered, i personally dont use i firewall,...

Thanx I sorta figured that out but some of my friends know how to do it using some dos commands seriously they have done it before and we never made any direct connection we only talked on msn...

I know how to get ips on icq,msn,yahoo,aol and through emails, without any programs but I want to know if there is another way to do this without establishing a direct connection with the person, by...

I just learned that if someone is running netbios i can type nbtstat -A xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 9xxx for the persons ip) when I do that, I get some info looking like:
NetBIOS Remote Machine Name...