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some old pentium (mostly p2 and AMD k6-2) mobo's use the atx form factor, so if you don't want to use fleabit's short circuit testing technique, you may be able to find an old junker for a few bucks...

:( sorry i called you an idiot.

what i was trying to say was "unplug your floppy, and don't plug it in backwards, and see if it works"

nowhere did cheyenne say that 'it had been sent off already" - it said "i'm sending it off"...

unplug your floppy, and then try again.