November 7th, 2001, 08:33 PM
May the Source be with you...... :P
So.. you want to learn to code eh? Well I will first have to say that I personally would recommend C as a first programming language, but that is just my opinion. As for compilers, there is no need for you to use any proprietary carp, legal, illegal or otherwise.
If your a Windows kid, go to http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
and get Dev C++. It is a full featured IDE much like the Visual Studio C++ IDE, but it is free, you can have the source code, and it won't be backdoor'd like that warez crap is likely to be.
If you are a *nix person you have just about everything you could ever need or want as part of your base system and packages. Once again, free, you can have the source code, not backdoor'd.
Lastly I would say check out http://www.ddj.com, it is a great resource for programmers of any particular type.
No matter what you choose, I would recommend staying away from Cobol, Basic, and maybe even VB. These are dated and not very portable. Oh.. and don't refer to HTML as programming around actuall programmers.
Know this..., you may not by thyself in pride claim the Mantle of Wizardry; that way lies only Bogosity without End.
Rather must you Become, and Become, and Become, until Hackers respect thy Power, and other Wizards hail thee as a Brother or Sister in Wisdom, and you wake up and realize that the Mantle hath lain unknown upon thy Shoulders since you knew not when.
November 7th, 2001, 08:56 PM
I bought MSVC back in the day to try and learn. BIG MISTAKE. All I got out of it was learning how to print "Hello World!" in DOS. I learned C when I started programming on a MUD. There was plenty of source code to look at. At first I made some simple changes like changing what the MUD outputs to you, etc. Eventually I learned how certain things work with each other, etc. I must warn you though. MUD programming will corrupt you. I repeat. MUD programming will corrupt you. You will pick up so many bad habits. Pretty soon you'll be asking yourself where const.c and merc.h went in your C projects.
Would you like to play a game?
How about Global Thermonuclear War?