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    Question Where in the blue hell ???

    Is there a way to know the source of the email ... let me make clear .. when i say source .. i am pertaining to the geographic location of where the email where sent from ... i.e. if from UK or AMERICA or AFGHANISTAN or maybe MANILA or somewhere else ...

    I am just curious coz someone send me an email claiming to be from my first country (country of citizenship) ... but i dont know if she / he is telling the trurth.. i am supecting that he is from my somewhere here on my town right now ....

    I would appreciate if someone could at least share me some trick(s) on how to do such thing ... ( tracking the location of sender )

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    read ALL the headers (if your in outlook, try getting the properties of the email)
    from the full headers you can...

    see the routes it's taken to get to you

    It doesn't guarantee anything about the location, just cos I'm sat in England doesn't stop me sending email from a server in another country.

    SamSpade also has some good tools for decrytping email headers, have a look in that direction as well.

    J.
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    Lightbulb here

    The simplistic way find a location. Make sure to view the full header so you can see their ip. for a full Run a tracert on the IP. To do this go to a dos prompt type tracert <IP>. Check up a few and see what it says. It's usualy blatently obvious. This may not work with spam cause unsolicited email is usually routed through proxies and unsecure boxes. Some isps use firewalls so it shows up as stars.
    here's an example heres a tracert to aol.net.
    the last routing went thru washington dc so theres a good chance that's where their ISP is located, or very near there.

    15 113 ms 112 ms 112 ms p15-0.phlapa1-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.90]
    16 116 ms 115 ms 118 ms so-0-0-0.washdc3-nbr2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.185

    17 117 ms * 115 ms so-0-0-0.washdc3-hcr7.bbnplanet.net [4.24.4.114]

    18 117 ms 114 ms 116 ms p1-0.aolash.bbnplanet.net [4.25.91.2]
    19 111 ms 110 ms 110 ms bb2-ash-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.139.213]
    20 111 ms 110 ms 110 ms bb2-dtc-P1-2.atdn.net [66.185.152.34]
    21 110 ms 121 ms 116 ms bb2-mtc-P9-0.atdn.net [204.148.98.254]
    22 112 ms 110 ms 110 ms pop2-mtc-P15-0.atdn.net [204.148.101.214]
    23 125 ms 118 ms 128 ms ow2-mc3-P0-0.atdn.net [204.148.102.182]
    24 110 ms 110 ms 112 ms www-mc1-P0-1.rri.aol.com [64.12.129.14]
    25 * * * Request timed out.

    looking at a whois server will also give more information on the isp itself address phone numbers etc. Checking a whois (http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois) database I searched for aol.net I picked this up. This confirms that aol is in virginia which is right next to Washington DC.

    Registrant:
    America Online, Inc.
    22000 AOL Way
    Dulles, VA 20166
    US

    Created on..............: Nov 22, 1999
    Expires on..............: Nov 22, 2001
    Record Last Updated on..: Nov 23, 1999
    Registrar...............: America Online, Inc.
    http://whois.registrar.aol.com/whois/

    Administrative Contact:
    Domain Administration, AOL
    America Online, Inc.
    22000 AOL Way
    Dulles, VA 20166
    US
    Email. domains@aol.net
    Tel. 703 265 4670

    Technical Contact:
    Domain Administration, AOL
    America Online, Inc.
    22000 AOL Way
    Dulles, VA 20166
    US
    Email. domains@aol.net
    Tel. 703 265 4670

    Domain servers:
    dns-01.ns.aol.com
    152.163.159.232
    dns-02.ns.aol.com
    205.188.157.232
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