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    Angry So it isn't all M$'s fault...

    "People are ignoring a free email application which could lessen the impact of viruses, according to Microsoft.
    The company said that computer users could minimise the impact of viruses such as SirCam and Badtrans with its Outlook Email Security Update.
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    However, although this downloadable update makes the Outlook program significantly more secure and has been available from Microsoft's website for more than a year, the company claims that fewer than one per cent of Outlook users have installed the patch."

    http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128849

    OK so M$ writes software that's hole-ier than god...but at least people could do is patch their systems...i'd say serves em right for whatever they get...except that they're making the whole net a more dangerous place...

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    Just another reason not to use M$... Ahhh but as you said its not all M$'s fault.... if the people wont update how can MS force them to?
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    OK so M$ writes software that's hole-ier than god...but at least people could do is patch their systems...i'd say serves em right for whatever they get...except that they're making the whole net a more dangerous place...
    Good point. If you're going to use that piece of crap named Outlook at least patch it. It beats me, in this day and age, why people persist in using Outlook. There are so many alternatives and alot of them are freeware...
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    Any half wit would have figured out now that probably about 90% of email viruses are directed at vulnerabilities associated with M$ Outlook.

    Should someone tell these people that there are actually other software packages out there that can handle all of your email. Lotus Notes etc..(yes, made by comapnies OTHER than M$!!)

    Hell, even hotmail would be less vulnerable than Outlook!!

    It is relatively simple, if you are not one for regularly patching your applications, probably M$ products are not for you!!

    I suppose that is my M$ flaming for the day!!
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    if the people wont update how can MS force them to?
    Because, MS, in all it's infinite wisdom, has made people that fscking stupid. It's like AOL's "browser" and MS' overall interface...nothing but point and click and the concept of updating means going to a newer version for new neato-gee-whiz-golly features that one probably won't ever use (Office 2k anyone?).

    MS has always been pushing a glitzy glamorous front-end so that end-lusers who don't know better are WoWed by it and don't realize just how crappy the OS is, in both terms of efficiency, security, and stability... What then? Then the OS dies every day and people get used to saying "Well, it's windows and just crashes..oh well" while rebooting and waiting so they can "sign on" and "surf the net a bit" while "downloading those cool pics" off their digicam that they got with their 2000 buck POS-computer-in-a-box so that they can "show all their friends!"...

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    Excuse me while I go explosively vomit now...

    How can anyone say it's not MS' fault when they PUT the people in that position? Security has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER been on the forefront of their "mission statement". They can talk all they want but time after time after time, they release programs and operating systems (now one a year) with immediately found bugs, holes, and other exploits...

    When will they get with the program? Never. I've seen NOTHING shown as a solid step in the right direction for security on anything MS related. UPNP exploit? A pretty badass exploit. Hotmail cookie-stealing which allows a "malicious user" to log in and steal account information? Wow, not another one!

    Moral of the story: MS wants a pretty frontend so all the housewives with no jobs can surf the net and their husbands who're "at work" can look at porn easily enough (popup ads anyone) on their new eXPerience...meanwhile people out in the world are driving their phat T1's through the holes XP and other MS products have...
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    I don't see a problem with user friendly front ends in general. But at some some point there's a trade off between user friendliness and giving the user more control (this usually means a more complex UI). What I do have a problem with is software that is so buggy that it needs patching so often that people end up getting sick of it and just ignoring the patches. I don't think MS should blame users for not constantly patching the buggy OS that they wrote. That sounds a little unreasonable to me.
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    As much money as MS makes, you'd think they could auto-update themselves transparently like Panda antivirus and countless other progs (Trillian just joined that rank). It's not hard to do, and MS has never cared for individuals personal privacy before so why would they give the argument "Well, we don't want to intrude" or some shite...

    "Security through obscurity"...that's the method of choice, as well as throwing around the FUD when a competitor comes through with a better product (not hard to do).
    We the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much with so little for so long that we are now qualified to do just about anything with almost nothing.
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    As much money as MS makes, you'd think they could auto-update themselves transparently like Panda antivirus and countless other progs (Trillian just joined that rank). It's not hard to do, and MS has never cared for individuals personal privacy before so why would they give the argument "Well, we don't want to intrude" or some shite...

    "Security through obscurity"...that's the method of choice, as well as throwing around the FUD when a competitor comes through with a better product (not hard to do).
    We the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much with so little for so long that we are now qualified to do just about anything with almost nothing.
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    Vorlin - what can I say? you're right again. Smirc also makes a valid point.

    I guess those in IT in mgmt should start pressuring m$ for such updates. At least SUN and some other ux makers attempt to hear their customers out.
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    Vorlin - what can I say? you're right again. Smirc also makes a valid point.

    I guess those in IT in mgmt should start pressuring m$ for such updates. At least SUN and some other ux makers attempt to hear their customers out.
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