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    that was a hell of a post rcgreen
    also the vampiristic drug dealers will also suffer and in turn have to get real jobs

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    Not all of the drug dealers will be able to get real jobs. There are some dealers out there that will be able to, but for the most part, dealers are people who were raised on the streets and whose primary education was on the streets. They lived in the ghettos, and in a culture of violence, gangs, drug abuse, and tension. These people will have a hard time adjusting, and will likely go on to something else of that nature. It's all they know.

    Where legalizing drugs will hurt organized crime is in the high-level areas, like the importers and manufacturers. This may not seem like a whole lot of the population of dealers, but the rest of the dealers will be without business, and most of them will be left without product.

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    Originally posted by Rcgreen
    What I disagree with is the idea that the government is
    responsible for health care, and the inevitable logical
    connection with their control of things that historically
    were in the realm of personal liberty.
    The fact is, that those who pay the bills will have control.
    If this control is exercized in a mild and reasonable way
    in Canada, that's good.
    As in Canada, we Belgians have free healthcare...but it's not as simple as that... Belgium is a democracy, meaning the people make the laws. We live in a welfare state, but our government isn't sovereign at all. We pay taxes, and the government uses those taxes (i.e. for free healthcare). You might argue that that ain't free healthcare at all, but imo it certainly does beat the American system... Does this mean the Belgian government controls our lifes? Not at all... In fact, marihuana is legal in Belgium. As in Canada, we have those big warning labels on cigarette packages, and cigarettes are taxed (heavily) in order to help cover the health problems they cause, but - and this is what is important - you are free to smoke, free to drink as much as you want.

    I began to be concerned along these lines a few years
    back when Hillary Clinton wanted to give the USA
    free health care.
    Think about it. If they pay the doctor bills, then they have
    a right to see to it that you don't waste their money
    by making unhealthy choices, like smoking tobacco, drinking
    coffee, eating bacon and eggs.
    Imo, chsh is right when he says your argumentation is flawed. It's not them who pay the doctor's bills (where would they get the money?), it's the citizens who pay them by paying taxes...

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    Where I live drugs are everywhere. Along with the drugs comes crime, violence, unhappiness, and desperation. It does not end. Our pain will indeed last forever, and the addictions will truly never die. I have fallen to their power but found no release from my pain in these chemicals. I sit here wondering why. It seems pain is the only thing that I am truly addicted to. Perhaps death will bring about the end of my pain.....perhaps not.
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    Originally posted here by rcgreen
    What I disagree with is the idea that the government is
    responsible for health care, and the inevitable logical
    connection with their control of things that historically
    were in the realm of personal liberty.
    The fact is, that those who pay the bills will have control.
    If this control is exercized in a mild and reasonable way
    in Canada, that's good.
    Yup, and in Canada, we pay the bills. The citizens in a democracy are the ones in control. If you feel America operates otherwise, perhaps moving to another country where you don't have those kinds of worries in order. From what your post reads, it sounds like you're in a Democratic Dictatorship, wherein you vote your dictatorship government in every four years.

    After the last elections, I think the American democracy is a rather bad example of a democracy. If a president wins but had lots the popular vote, I fail to see how that makes him a president. More of your country voted for the other guy. So perhaps you have reason to see it that way.

    Next they will outlaw tobacco.
    The idealists and utopians will cheer.
    We are engaged in a great civil war over drug use.
    Much of the misery associated with drug use should really
    be attributed to drug prohibition.

    The only consequence of legalizing drugs would be that a lot of snotty
    little fascists would have to get real jobs instead of being employed torturing
    drug addicts.
    No, they'd just get jobs for the government.
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    The Health care plan proposed by hillary clinton's
    comittee wasn't a national health plan on the
    European model. It was actually a law making
    it mandatory for people to purchase health
    insurance, and it would have been administered
    by the health insurance industry.

    Under a true national health plan, government
    makes the rules, controllong physician compensation,
    what health conditions are covered, how much specialty
    or exotic care you are entitled to etc.

    If it is a democracy, these are "public policy" matters.
    Hillary's plan was a hybrid, what I like to call "the worst
    of both worlds".
    Employers would have been mandated to buy health
    insurance for all employees. The insurance companies
    would have continued to decide the standards of care.

    As you can see, we never do anything simple in the USA.
    BTW, our system of gov't reflects the fact that it is a large
    population of rancorous interest groups who want to
    capture control of gov't for private gain.
    Actually, it is a good system, designed to de-centralise
    the power. Congress consists of two houses, one is a
    "popular" institution like British house of commons, with members
    representing small districts
    Members of the Senate, on the other hand, represent the States,
    and President is not responsible to the legislature
    since he is elected separately.
    Hopefully, their interests will cancel each other and they won't
    get any utopian laws passed.
    I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.

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    hell yah! i feel ya on this one...though personally i believe that if any current illegal drug be legalized it should be a close friend of mine, MARJUANA!! although people would end up being stupid bout it...stayin high all the time and turn out to have no life, causing it to be illegal again! gotta juss use it responsinably and get the **** that needs to be done, done....maybe someday....hopefully, hehe.

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    Originally posted here by Cohiba227
    hell yah! i feel ya on this one...though personally i believe that if any current illegal drug be legalized it should be a close friend of mine, MARJUANA!! although people would end up being stupid bout it...stayin high all the time and turn out to have no life, causing it to be illegal again! gotta juss use it responsinably and get the **** that needs to be done, done....maybe someday....hopefully, hehe.

    oh i thought u were talking about beer. what a coincedence.
    I smoke and I dont do stupid ****. I do know people who drink and do do stupid ****.
    I think if weed were legal dont be supprised to see a fat article and landscape in better homes and gardens. the government would sell some but people would just grow it.
    time to rip out those rose bushes and make way for the weed.
    you be supprised on how many people smoke, I'm talking about the people you never would suspect. I bet if we had some kind of representation. we could take a poll, a national poll.
    forget representation lets start an Email poll and see how many people would agree.
    weed is no demon by any means.
    I myself am 1/4 american indian. My ancestors smoked it ... did u think that was tobacco in the peace pipe? hell no it was good old Mary Jane.
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    i havent had a problem with it either..... usually helps me program better, if im in the mood, lol

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