February 27th, 2002, 01:43 PM
I'm totally against this computer chip in the body crap... I think we're taking "A chip off the old block" a bit too literally... Honestly, this just scares the crap out of me. A few months ago, some guy (sojourn) came into the IRC (and I haven't seen him since...). He directed me to something similiar to this. If you've ever read the Left Behind series by LeHaye/Jenkins, this will seem awfully similar to the Mark of the Beast toward the end of the series... scares the poopie outa me.
Well, I'm going to go hide under my bed now. Maybe they can't find me...
I know you\'re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you\'re afraid. You\'re afraid of us. You\'re afraid of change. I don\'t know the future. I didn\'t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it\'s going to begin. I\'m going to hang up this phone, and then I\'m going to show these people what you don\'t want them to see. I\'m going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.
February 27th, 2002, 01:48 PM
PhirePhreak - was that series put to movie format, thought I'd seen something like that? Is that about the end of the world and all that?
btw - they have monitor under your bed. :-)
February 27th, 2002, 01:55 PM
quick to blame the government are we? i don't recall anything in the article saying that the US government is interested in using this technology. It doesn't even suggest that the FDA is seeking to approve this. This is a case of a corporation with an agenda. Too bad the republicans are in power though, we know how they like their money...
February 27th, 2002, 01:59 PM
what is this? hackers fearing new technology? anyone who fears government monitoring should know by now that if they want to know something, anything, they can. they do not need chips in you. granted, it will make it easier, but we of all people should not fear this. we should learn how to use it for our own benefit. how to "hack" it.
there is obviously no stopping it. once the seed of a new technology has been planted, it will grow. you can not stop technology. one thing that does scare me though is what will happen when script kiddies learn how to exploit these things.
\"Computer games don\'t affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we\'d all be running around in darkened rooms munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.\" Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc. 1989
February 27th, 2002, 02:19 PM
I am going to have to look for the link to the article I read yesterday. It was saying that the government in South Carolina was giving away childrens DNA without the parents concent. Some of it was going to a genetics lab, for testing. The rest was going to another government agency, so that they could start a DNA database.
\"Ignorance is bliss....
but only for your enemy\"
February 27th, 2002, 02:20 PM
It's not that we fear new technology, but the uses that it could be put to. Should it be required to get one, I, for one, am going to make damn well sure that there's a method of altering it before I let it anywhere near me--i.e, blanking it entirely. I don't think we really have to worry about s'kiddie exploits on these, though, until they team up with pickpockets--no other way to get close enough for an exploit.
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February 27th, 2002, 02:21 PM
Kinda sad to bring that back but, during WW2, prisoners were 'marked', tagged. Who wants to be tagged? Are they thinking of getting GPS into the chip so they'll know when we mitch school? No way. Has anyone ever read novels such as the Mona Lisa Overdrive by Wilson and Ride to Pegasus (by I don't remember who)? The SIN chip was a total disaster. This is the begining to population growth control and to 'eliminate' the 'scum' from the 'high' society.
We should really have a say in all this. What can we do?
-Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate-
February 27th, 2002, 02:39 PM
Here's a link to one version of that article on children's DNA in South Carolina:
February 27th, 2002, 03:05 PM
just a quick comment from a newbie (first post, yay!)
as for the power the device uses, you wont need a battery or to drain bioelectrical energy from the body (ever play Dues Ex?) it will use magnatism. it much the same way i am powering my radio.
The wind blows, that turns the blades on my little windmill, that turns a shaft, which connects to a magnet that moves through a coil generating electricity. a simple generator.
the way these chips work is similar, the scanner will be a magnet and a reciever, the magnet is passed over the skin and makes the magnet inside teh chip pass thru a coil, generating just enough electricity to power the minute transmitter. the data sent out by the transmitter will be then picked up by the reciver and displays it on a small screen.
for me this brings to mind fictional storys come true, a quote from a book i read in school that i shall never foget is "...The metal machines of most unreal terror tear accross the country along the scoreched black paths they lay before them, fueled by the blackened blood of earth itself they bring havoc and choas wherever they may travel..." remind you of cars at all? maybe just a bit? yes..?
and of course there is also the one about people who are brainwashed by large Bieg boxes they are forced into buying to better their lives. and the large metal birds that carry people to heaven. ack, i could go on forever as i scan my old english books form school.
we must face it, we are going the way we are destined. pretty soon it will be normal for everything to be automated, you will go from having robots that clean your house, to robots that do your job, weather you are replaced by a computer, a vending machine, or a repair robot, one day the machines will take over...
ever hear the phraze..
"Its for your own good"
February 27th, 2002, 03:27 PM
letting the gov't put something inside me that in a place that im not suposed to know about, and use it to track me, (cause thats basically what it is regardless of what people say);