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    Cool Disclosure of Passwords!

    I'm trying to find out if it is legal (in the USA) for a person to withold passwords from authorities. It is legal? I "heard" that one can without passwords, to keep from incriminating his/herself. Sort of like "pleading the 5th."

    If you know, any actual documentation would be appreciate.

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    That's a good question. But it may be a moot point. They can seize the computer and use password cracking programs on it easily enough.
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    I'd just like to know if one can be legally forced (backed by legal punishment) for not disclosing a password, when requested by authorities.

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    I'm no legal expert but wouldnít that fall under with holding evidence or obstruction of justice. Thatís why you have the 448bit encryption. To keep those pesky government computers form cracking you encrypted porno collection.
    Its not software piracy. Iím just making multiple off site backups.

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    I was thinking that vocalizing a password could fall under the "right to remain silent."

    The Fifth Amendment:
    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself , nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    If one can be legally forced to disclose a password, the same could be imposed to decrypt data...

    I hope someone can come up with actual legal cites for this matter...

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    Try this siteCornell Law . It should have the info you are looking for.
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    Originally posted here by cimotaflow
    I'd just like to know if one can be legally forced (backed by legal punishment) for not disclosing a password, when requested by authorities.
    You could always say that you have forgot your password and there is nothing they can do with it
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    Say if you had a password to your email and you weren't saying what it is. Couldn't the government subpoena (prolly the wrong term here) the email provider, so that they could tell them?

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    we...a lot depends on your country...in Canada we don't have anything like "The 5th" or the famous miranda speech..when our cops arrest you all they have to say is you have the right to retain and instruct council...(i think...never having been arrested..) ...

    I am pretty sure that most democratic countries could not force you too divulge a password...how could they....that would be like saying to a murder...ok you have to tell us where you hid the body...you can tell em or not...there's not much they can do if you don;t want to tell...however...they can and will seize any and everything of they think will give them the evidence they need...and they will crack your pwd if they want or need to...
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    Just say you forgot it and they will leave you alone
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