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    Post mailboxes are exploding! why, you ask?

    source: http://cryptome.org/lucas-mail.htm

    8 May 2002. Thanks to A.

    New York Times today on arrest of Lucas Helder:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/08/national/08PIPE.html


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    http://www.badgerherald.com/vnews/di.../3cd8567cac259

    Text of letter Helder sent to The Badger Herald

    May 07, 2002


    Mailboxes are exploding! Why, you ask?

    Attention people.

    You do things because you can and want (desire) to

    If the government controls what you want to do, they control what you can
    do.

    If you are under the impression that death exists, and you fear it, you do
    anything to avoid it. (This is the same way pain operates. Naturally we
    strive to avoid negative emotion/pain.)

    You allow yourself to fear death!

    World authorities allowed, and still allow you to fear death!

    In avoiding death you are forced to conform, if you fail to conform, you
    suffer mentally and physically. (Are world powers utilizing the natural
    survival instinct in a way that allows them to capitalize on the people?)

    To "live'' (avoid death) in this society you are forced to conform/slave
    away.

    I'm here to help you realize/ understand that you will live no matter what!
    It is up to you people to open your hearts and minds. There is no such thing
    as death. The people I've dismissed from this reality are not at all dead.

    Conforming to the boundaries, and restrictions imposed by the government
    only reduces the substance in your lives. When 1% of the nation controls 99%
    of the nations total wealth, is it a wonder why there are control problems?

    The United States strives to provide freedom for their people. Do we really
    have personal freedom? I've lived here for many years, and I see much
    limitation. Does the definition of freedom include limitation? I've learned
    about the history of various civilizations in history, and I see more and
    more limitation. Do you people enjoy this trend of limitation? If not,
    change it!

    As long as you are uninformed about death you will continue to say ``how
    high'', when the government tells you to ``jump''. As long as the government
    is uninformed about death they will continue tell you to ``jump'' Is the
    government uninformed about death, or are they pretending?

    You have been missing how things are, for very long. I'm obtaining your
    attention in the only way I can. More info is on its way. More ``attention
    getters' are on the way. If I could, I would change only one person,
    unfortunately the resources are not accessible. It seems killing a single
    famous person would get the same media attention as killing numerous
    un-famous humans. There is less risk of being detained, associated with
    dismissing certain people.

    Sincerely,

    Someone Who Cares

    PS. More info. will be delivered to various locations around the country.

    LIFE ON EARTH

    Plants, Animals and Humans are the levels of consciousness contained on
    Earth. By design, each is specialized and amazing! In comprehending this
    scenario, take it a step further. What do you suppose would logically
    proceed humans?

    I'm happy because I know, I often wonder why anyone would be content with
    believing when they could know. I often wonder why so many people spend
    their entire lives consuming what is fed to them, without knowing if they
    are consuming anything at all.

    I was raised to believe. All of my family and friends were raised to
    believe. ... to be gullible ... to be materialistic ... to fear authority
    ... to blindly follow ... you can't forget greed, and god forbid they would
    understand themselves!

    Do you wonder why people blow themselves up to hurt others? Do you wonder
    why the icebergs are melting, and precious earth is heating up? Do you
    wonder why you are here? Do you wonder what is out there ... way out there?
    I remember those days of uncertainty, and I can't tell you how great it is
    to know, to know eternally, and to be.

    Humans have been striving for thousands and thousands of years to
    understand. From complex math equations, microscopes, and telescopes, to
    scientists, psychologists, governments (world leaders), and priests, all are
    designed to allow us all to understand. What the teachers/leaders understand
    is what the mass understands. Now wouldn't it be wise to question authority?

    Our society is getting more and more complex, a direct reflection of our
    desire to avoid suffering. Well look around friends, the future is here, but
    is the pain easing? Are the wars calming? Is EVERYONE happy? Clearly NOT!
    Everyone knows earth has its problems. The longer the mass fails to
    understand the longer suffering will occur for plants, animals, humans and
    Earth. We all suffer to certain degrees, whether it's mental or physical,
    and technology contributes to making many daily activities easier, however,
    you in turn become dependent on the technology, and when something becomes
    broken, added pressures arise, and the negative emotions/suffering reoccurs.

    Technology and complexity will NEVER satisfy your desire of avoiding
    suffering ... There is more to this dilemma and I'm here to nudge you in a
    helpful direction.

    I'm here to help you, to expose you, to inform you, to provide for you the
    answers for where to look, so the "spiritually sleepy mass" can transform
    themselves from believing to knowing, to have an awareness to life, and to
    begin understanding. Understand you have no reason to fear anything, ever,
    everything will be perfect, and the answers are much closer than you think!
    You will find answers that will allow everyone to find happiness, to know,
    and to understand. It's time you people open your minds to a new train of
    thought. You are on a journey, a very exciting one at that!

    I'm at an advantage in this society, and so is every other spiritually
    well-rounded person. We understand. Soon you will too, and you too, will be
    at an advantage. The advantage is the knowing that there is NO SUCH THING AS
    DEATH/VOID/END/NO MORE ... whatever you want to call that notion. The idea
    that death exists is less realistic than the existence of the tooth fairy,
    as an actual entity! Santa clause, the Easter Bunny, The tooth fairy, Humpty
    Dumpty, and Death would all be categorized as fairy tales.

    Why does the notion of "death" exist?

    It is no wonder why the notion of death exists. Naturally you are afraid of
    what you don't understand. Few people understand death, therefor most people
    fear death. And you can imagine the benefits of allowing the survival

    instinct to remain instilled into the current skewed understanding about
    death, which most people possess. Are world powers capitalizing on the
    "spiritually sleepy" mass? Is greed/money the reason why people have strayed
    away from their spiritual selves?

    Revealed Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) were created to
    maintain the survival instinct, to order people (Ten Commandments, notion of
    heaven/hell, good/bad) and at the same time provide some spiritual relief
    for people. A spiritual relief that in no way gives your results that allow
    you to actually realize that when you die, you do go on (religious people
    still fear death). Logically they should still fear death because they have
    not received substantial evidence pointing towards any truth in their
    religion (the notion that there is a heaven/hell). You are simply asked to
    believe, and most do. People insist on continuing to believe because
    religion has been pounded into the heads of most of us ever since we were
    children, and also "just in case there is really is a bad place called hell"
    ... no wonder this belief system persists. Is it worth acknowledging
    (attending, giving money too) a particular spiritual reality/organization
    when you have no idea whether it is legitimate or not?

    In fearing death, you are forced to work (in turn providing for the
    government), and conform to society. You work to buy food, provide shelter,
    entertainment, etc. You conform to society because you will receive negative
    emotion/pain/death (jail/death penalty) if you don't. You fear, therefor you
    conform. Money is the only source of relief that most people are aware of.
    Naturally we avoid pain, therefor strive for relief, also known as obtaining
    money, and you obtain money by working. Therefor fear of death results in
    the ability of the government to make money, on the people/on precious
    consciousness/on you!

    Greed of some lead to Misunderstanding of most.

    Misunderstanding life creates a fear of death.

    Fear of death forces you to work/conform.

    Work/conformity allows government to benefit/capitalize from people
    (fulfills government desires, not peoples).

    As long as greed persists, people will desire to capitalize, in turn forcing
    people slave away.

    Understand life to eliminate greed.

    Accurate spiritual understanding eliminates greed.

    ??????The sooner we all understand, the sooner the fear of death and greed
    is erased.??????

    Notice the cause and affect. Notice the stimulus, and response. Notice how
    veering away from your true spirituality lead to world hardship. Treat
    others how you want to be treated ... this mentality can only produce more
    positive emotion/love.

    Like I said I'm here to help you, to expose you, and to inform you, how to
    discover an accurate spiritual understanding. An understanding in which you
    know to be 100 percent true. How do you know this one thing is true, you
    ask? Well you must experience it personally of course!

    Dreams are a key element in understanding reality.

    We all experience dreams as we sleep. As our body rests, our minds
    continuously operate. When experiencing a dream, how do you know if you are
    awake or not? And when you are awake, how do you know if you are dreaming?

    The unnatural, muddled, often confusing sequence of events, and the idea
    that you "wake up", are the only indicators that allow you to realize you
    were dreaming. The natural, constantly aware, and logically progressive
    sequence of events that we all experience, allows us to realize that we have
    to be awake. You can logically track what you do each day from the time you
    get out of bed, to the time you get back into bed. The reason we trick
    ourselves for a moment or extended moments into excepting the dream as being
    "real", is because in terms of reality, a dream is exactly as realistic as
    the reality you perceive when you are "awake."

    Our reality/what we experience, is based on what we can see, touch, smell,
    taste, and hear. This is how we know if something is "real." As a
    consciousness/soul/spirit, you are constantly painting a reality in which
    you can see, touch, smell, taste, and hear, things. When you go to sleep you
    produce realities, and when you wake up you again produce more reality. Yes
    you have been producing everything that you have been experiencing, while
    sleeping, and awake, all of your life! Now you are probably starting to
    realize just how special we all are. We are all extremely specialized
    beings, and the idea that you are not aware of this fact is disturbing to
    me.

    In being spiritually well rounded, you begin to understand yourself!

    Mentally, and physically, you produce your own reality.

    If you can think it, you can experience it.

    As you all begin to realize the potential you have as a
    consciousness/soul/spirit, you will begin to harness the abilities you have
    to produce realities. All of us have such elaborate imaginations. You
    experience this directly as you dream. The ability to create

    (anything in your own reality) will be utilized as a tool for yourself
    (and/or others) when experiencing life outside of the body. Frankly, I can't
    wait! Just imagine the possibilities we all have as eternal beings! This is
    only the beginning, friends!

    We have much to learn.

    Earth is a beautiful place wouldn't you say. There is so much beauty to be
    found everywhere. There are so many beautiful things, all by design. The
    three, least advanced, levels of consciousness reside here. Earth is a
    training ground for these stages of consciousness. If you are reading this,
    then you obviously have chosen to be a part of this Earth experience. And
    because of that choice, you now understand what is like to love, be loved,
    be confused, happy, sad, and the list of emotions goes on forever. Most of
    us have been through numerous life cycles for the purpose of gaining these
    emotions/experiences. If you don't experience it then how can you possibly
    understand it?

    Earth is a situation in which millions of consciousnesses coexist. While you
    dream, you are within yourself, producing the reality you imagine. Because
    you are producing the reality entirely, you are not confined to the laws of
    physics, you can take control, and do anything you can imagine. The practice
    of becoming aware while dreaming, and controlling the dream, is known as
    lucid dreaming. While awake, you enter a reality within your body. As we

    have found, Earth is a reality dictated by the laws of physics (gravity,
    matter, energy, etc). Our reality on earth was set up for the purpose of
    producing an effective learning environment. We learn through experiencing
    the opposite. Would you realize how great you had it if you had not realized
    how terrible you could have had it? You experience pain to understand what
    pleasure is. Remember, experience/learn something first hand to understand
    something.

    What happens when the body dies?

    Imagine how confusing is must be to be taken away from everything that you
    have known. When your body dies, you are simply, out of your body. Problems
    arise when individuals "get out" and they aren't aware of what to do next.
    Many conciousnesses linger around on earth, clutching to material things;
    this is what ghosts are. Many consciousnesses get out and aimlessly wander,
    unaware of their divine potential. Individuals who commit suicide, for the
    purpose of escaping their problems, get out of their bodies to find
    themselves contaminated with the same sadness, and often find themselves
    even more confused. Inaccurate death perceptions, and Misunderstood, Age-old
    religions/dogmas are the direct cause of these dysfunctional results.
    Understanding the truth will only direct/guide consciousnesses that are
    revisiting life on the other side. You are free to do anything when you are
    out of the body! Understanding yourself will only provide direction for you!

    There are no rules out of the body.

    The body is a temporary learning experience.

    You learn in the body, and play out of the body

    How can you begin to know, instead of believe?

    You know something is true by experiencing that something. How do you know
    you are a consciousness experiencing a body? There are numerous
    philosophical notions that you can explore on your own proving the existence
    of a creator/s, and/or god consciousness. There are a variety of practices
    and natural occurrences that you can take part in/recognize that will let
    you KNOW that you go on when you die. Open your minds and experience them.
    You may hear ghost stories, but have you ever seen one? If you haven't, get
    out the camera and start seeing. Why not prove to yourself they exist? Like
    I said, I've been there. I was curious about the existence of ghosts, and my
    curiosity lead me to further investigation, which in turn allowed me to KNOW
    ghosts truly do exist. Needless to say, it was an exciting occasion to
    finally see one! When I got my film developed to find orbs, the week was
    even more exciting!

    Meditation and astral projection/controlled out of body experiences are more
    key elements in knowing you go on when your body dies. This involves the
    practice of intentionally controlling yourself away from your body as it
    rests. When you get out, you get to experience life on the other side
    directly. You get to learn first hand what it is like to be out of body. You
    will travel faster than the speed of light to anywhere, and by merely
    thinking! Go on, find those who have past on. You can travel with others who
    are out too. Meet up with friends in the night, and talk about your
    experience the next day. The possibilities are endless and the experiences

    will be breathtaking. The future is here people, get online and to the
    library. Start observing, thinking, researching, thinking, understanding,
    and not to mention, THINKING! Whether it's logic, meditation, channeling,
    astral projection, or ghosts, all are ways of knowing ... wouldn't you agree
    that earth will benefit from everyone knowing?

    You talk of this place called heaven. Heaven resides within you. You control
    your own destiny. You are your own god! Earth is a place where free will
    resides. You can do anything you want. Because of this principle earth has
    its many crude lessons, and what one does effects everyone else. Accurately
    understanding the science of spirituality/life, will allow you to reevaluate
    your current methods and create more correct ways. You give the death
    penalties to your most severe criminals. Does freeing their
    consciousness/soul/spirit provide relief of anxiety for you, or are you
    attempting to give them that age old, nonexistent notion of death? You can
    work for years to achieve something and get hit by a car the next day ...
    Your time on earth will contain its many ups and downs, and no matter what,
    everything will be perfect in the end. Why have regrets?

    There is no such thing as death, and fear is not necessary ...

    I'm doing this because I care, and have one in you people. If this doesn't
    work then so be it. In the end you will KNOW I was telling you the truth
    anyway. Imagine the sigh of relief you will have to KNOW you go on when you
    die. World authonomy has placed limitations on humans for long enough, learn
    from your mistakes and grow! To KNOW is to be given the key to the bodily
    "cell" most of us are currently confined to. The option is yours, but why
    not grasp realtiy, and make an art of living? Learn from your mistakes, and
    change society accordingly. There is so much limitation placed on
    individuals in the United States that it is illegal to grow marijuana?! I
    recommend finding proper (most beneficial/desirable) order, not excessive
    order. Marijuana was placed here for a reason people. You spend billions per
    year on drug prohibition and the only thing being accomplished is the
    spending of billions of dollars. Alcohol is a motor skill impairment;
    marijuana is a mental stimulation, yet the impairing agent is legal?! Is
    this yet another governmental agenda utilized as a tool for order? Alcohol
    directly kills thousands per year; marijuana directly kills zero people per
    year. Wake up people! You're here for such a short time, why have regrets?
    I'm taking very drastic measures in attempt to provide this information to
    you. You people have failed long enough... can we now grow? I will
    die/change in the end for this, but that's ok, hahaha paradise awaits! I'm
    dismissing a few individuals from reality, to change all of you for the
    better, surely you can understand my logic.

    See you all in 2011 (or sooner). Now go find your higher selves!

    As clear and concise as possible ,

    [SIGNATURE]

    Lucas Helder

    P.S. USA

    Elementary and High School Education

    Distinguish "common sense" and "book smarts" as different yet equally
    effective forms of intelligence, and adjust the nations school systems

    accordingly. This would eliminate the friction that is ever so present in
    today's systems, among the "bad" kids, and the "good" (book smart) kids, and
    the teachers. I found many Teachers always treat the "smart kids" (book
    smart) as if they are better in school. This in turn reducing their chance
    of having a desire to further their education, or at least care about
    learning in school. The kids who get the "A's" are not the only "smart"
    kids.
    speaks the truth.

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    Thumbs up

    You know something is true by experiencing that something. How do you know
    you are a consciousness experiencing a body? There are numerous
    philosophical notions that you can explore on your own proving the existence
    of a creator/s, and/or god consciousness. There are a variety of practices
    and natural occurrences that you can take part in/recognize that will let
    you KNOW that you go on when you die. Open your minds and experience them.
    sounds like someone who has too much spare time
    and needs a job.
    I'm sure the prison system can find one for him.
    I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.

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    Didn't he map out a smiley face bombing pattern?

    Do I need to say more?

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    Mailboxes are exploding.. National land marks are targets. Thousands have died. "Why?", you ask.. Because of ignorance. Stupidity. Delusions. Self deception. The list goes on but there's no legitimate reason for these hostile actions. You're entitled to your opinion blackh0le but I think that letter is just a crock of ****. We all need to "wake up" and we're all inside a dream world, this isn't real, blah blah bullshit. He dosen't deserve to go to prison. He should fry. How'd you like it if you went to check your mail and a bomb went off.. Still think it would be fine and dandy blackh0le? You would have a different opinion if you were the target.

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    Mailboxes are exploding.. National land marks are targets. Thousands have died. "Why?", you ask.. Because of ignorance. Stupidity. Delusions. Self deception. The list goes on but there's no legitimate reason for these hostile actions. You're entitled to your opinion blackh0le but I think that letter is just a crock of ****. We all need to "wake up" and we're all inside a dream world, this isn't real, blah blah bullshit. He dosen't deserve to go to prison. He should fry. How'd you like it if you went to check your mail and a bomb went off.. Still think it would be fine and dandy blackh0le? You would have a different opinion if you were the target.
    where in post did i say that he was doing the right thing injuring innocent people. i agree with the message he is getting across, not the acts he used.

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    ...Sounds like an endless sub-strata mental loop of some kind, missin' some a the 0's and 1's... Maybe he shoulda just been *sellin'* some a that stuff what grows along the road up there in the woods, instead 'o smokin' it hisself. If i was his lawyer, i'd just have 'im sit there gazin' into space and mumble that s#yt over and over, under his breath but loud enough for the jurors to hear, 'an they'd have 'im safely tucked into the boobyhatch instead 'o the chair, in about a HongKong minute. 'Of course, the families whose members were killed or maimed and their lives devastated by his deliberate, murderous, criminal actions might prefer to view murderous criminals in some kind of different manner, who knows...

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    i think he just validated all the anti-MJ arguments for those that oppose it. this boy really knows how to help a cause.

    my guess would be, smart lawer or not, he'll never make it past a compitancy hearing.

    this 'prophet' will be put into his very own foam rubber paradise simply because he has no sense of right or wrong.
    Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”

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    The message is a crock of sh*t too. Wake up neo...
    ...surely you can understand my logic.
    No I can't. I do not see the logic. All I see is a punk arse kid trying to convince other people to do the same thing he did. Kill innocent people for no reason. For humor.. sh*ts and grins. The guy made a freaking pattern in the shape of a smiley face!

    I'm doing this because I care...
    Ok this fella dosen't give a hoot about you. He's just trying to convince you to see life through his perspective. Yeah, I see his point of view but it's just last minute ramblings by a man that's about to go on death row. I don't have time to punch holes in this guys last words but if you read it you can see for your self.
    It's just crap.

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    The manifesto shows a painful and desperate wrangling of philosophical rhetoric from a man who was questioning things we all ask ourselves but in a pointless violent fashion.

    While this guy is free to believe whatever he wants, it still gave him no right to shove his thoughts on life in a mailbox with a blast device.

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    There must be some good Bud's around where he lives???
    One thing i will say is...Damn can he write!!
    That was way tooooooo long.

    Long live the Smileyface

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