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    Question proxys and pillows

    ok, i know what a proxy is (i think..... kinda like a retransmiting station but it retransmits data with its IP insted of yours? if not please correct me) and yes i know and realise that im behind one in my home LAN using the gateway as the proxy. please correct me if im wrond anywhere in here, its been a long day and its 2am and i wanna go to sleep but i want to post this first....... anyway, yes, XP pro gateway (parents prefer M$ but i run linux on my box that im writing from at the moment. ok i think theres a question in here somewhere...... i think what i wanna know is how to i enable leapfrogging from one proxy to another to another to another to another to another to another to another to........... you get the idea. cause all i see to be able to come up with is sites on the internet that say pay us and well give you a proxy to look at webpages thru, and if you pay us more we may even let you use FTP...... stuff like them....... am i only going to get those? or are there proxys out there that are truely for alowing free and total unrestricted access thru? like any ports (ex, if i wanted GAIM to run all my mesangers thru it)...... ok i think there was a question somewhere in there, i hope so, or else i just put off going to sleep to write for 20 mins (c'mon, im tired so i type slow and have alot of errors) and not get anything written......

    hmmmmm the thaught of that just makes me just wanna go to sleep and thing about it with my nice cozy pillow...... wait, i want a nice cozy pillow first, i hate the pillow i have cause its to flat, i have 3 pillows piled up and its still not enuf cause there all to flat. any sugestions on that one while were at it?

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    Whoa... you realy do need some sleep. Although I can't answer with 100% certainty, I would venture a guess that you won't ever find a free one that supports all ports. Sure, you can find free proxies, but most of them are just web and maybe ftp, but I can't think of any that will proxy every connection for you.

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    someone would have to be crazy to proxy all services for the public, they'd have to hire a legal team just to deal with the FBI, police etc when all these misc. hacks point back to their server.

    it would be a skiddie holiday!
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    Hey there... (hopefully for you by now you're well asleep

    First let me clarify about proxies... Proxies don't exactly just retransmit with its own ip (that would be the definition of NAT -Network Adress Translation- "server". A proxy instead accepts direct connections from the client application (ex: Inernet Explorer). The proxy server then establishes a connection to the end server you are actually trying to reach. It the relays the information between the client connection and the server connection. In order to be able to do that, the proxy has to know the protocol the client app uses (ex: IE uses http, the proxy must know http for this to work, hence an http proxy).

    So if you've had enough sleep, you'll understand that you need a different proxy server for each application you use (one physical server (one computer) might be running many different proxies).

    There is however another kind of proxy, called a Socks (4 or 5) proxy that can relay pretty much any protocol but its more complicated to explain! (Client applications have to explicitly support socks proxies for this to work...)

    Back to your question, it seems to me that you're trying to "anonymize" your connections. If this is right, I don't think (haven't heard of) public proxies for other that http and ftp...
    There are always users who run proxy software (like wingate) that unknowingly leave there proxies open. But this is -illiegal-.

    Anyways, hope this clarified things a bit for you..


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    Originally posted here by ammo
    Hey there... (hopefully for you by now you're well asleep

    First let me clarify about proxies... Proxies don't exactly just retransmit with its own ip (that would be the definition of NAT -Network Adress Translation- "server". A proxy instead accepts direct connections from the client application (ex: Inernet Explorer). The proxy server then establishes a connection to the end server you are actually trying to reach. It the relays the information between the client connection and the server connection. In order to be able to do that, the proxy has to know the protocol the client app uses (ex: IE uses http, the proxy must know http for this to work, hence an http proxy).

    So if you've had enough sleep, you'll understand that you need a different proxy server for each application you use (one physical server (one computer) might be running many different proxies).

    There is however another kind of proxy, called a Socks (4 or 5) proxy that can relay pretty much any protocol but its more complicated to explain! (Client applications have to explicitly support socks proxies for this to work...)

    Back to your question, it seems to me that you're trying to "anonymize" your connections. If this is right, I don't think (haven't heard of) public proxies for other that http and ftp...
    There are always users who run proxy software (like wingate) that unknowingly leave there proxies open. But this is -illiegal-.

    Anyways, hope this clarified things a bit for you..


    Ammo
    ok, yeah, very helpful (even tho i only got 4 hours of sleep which isnt like me, im going back to sleep again after this). ok so how does the XP network just relay my TCP/IP requests? i dont have to configure GAIM for a Socks proxy or anything, it just seems to relay whatever requests i send out. hmmmmmm interesting tho. thanks alot Ammo really useful info on the proxys.

    also thanks for the links, i havent looked them over to widely but i dont think that it what i was quite looking for, im broke and i think they want money so...... but thanks anyway

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    Win XP has MS's ICS (Internet connection sharing) feature which does NAT. In that case it does indeed just relay the IP packets with its own IP, while keeping a list of what went out so it can correctly replace the IP when the anwser comes back in. (I guess it is sometimes refered to as a NAT proxy...). This is transparent to users but doesn't always work well depending on the application protocols...

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    NAT, ok thanks, got it, i know what that is so im all happy now that i know how it works

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