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    keystroke logging puts mob away

    The government upholds a case against a mobster in NJ - the major point of contention in this case was keystroke logging. More here...

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...e_mobster_dc_1
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    "This case was really our first glimpse into the extraordinary new technical capabilities that law enforcement is going to have," said David Sobel, general counsel of the privacy advocate group Electronic Privacy Information Center.


    I'm aware that this guy was Mafioso but I still see it as another loss for freedom. It's beyond me how a Government agency can install keylogging software on suspicion only....

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    i thought it was kind of odd that the judge made a distinction between keyboard logging and wiretapping.

    I guess there really is a difference between letter of the law and spirit of the law...


    Its also kinda cool that so many of you guys are politically/legally astute. Seeings as how i graduated with degrees in political science and history, i never expected to have these kinds of discussions on a tech board. Makes this site that much more enjoyable (for me anyway).
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    i know, its great here, its all the tech advice you can handle (then alot more) plus you got all these people with knowledge about everyother thing in the world just about........

    im still trying to lick my elbow....... im getting closer!

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    I totally agree with the war on terror, but my hope/fear is that it wont be used as a vehicle to erode our personal freedoms...

    the pendulem is always swinging to either extreme...I wonder why it cant find a place right down the center???
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    the FBI and/or the CIA loves to snup on the American ppl. I believe that the goverment is always trying to find a way to snup on us all. I wouldnt be surprised if they were viewing my key stroks now.
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    What's the difference between the gestapo tapping your phone or installing a keylogger? They probably needed to get a warrent before doing it, so I bet they had probable cause... I'm not defending them doing this, but it's not big news considering they've been doing that to our phones for a while now.
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    Originally posted here by sw1gzilla
    I'm not defending them doing this, but it's not big news considering they've been doing that to our phones for a while now.

    Does that make it acceptable? I think not.


    I dont want to start another one of these "Carnivore" type threads as it's been done to death on the forums. Every citizen has the right to privacy, unless of course, you are a known criminal or breaking the law. But who decides exactly what is criminal "activity"? If I send a friend an email that contains a carnivore keyword am I then monitored because of "probable cause"?


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    1984 = 2002

    I remember reading an article on Security Focus about Nicodemo Scarfo Jr's case. That was about the same time that everyone was talking about Magic Lantern!

    If you guys felt a little uneasy about Keylogging, read some of these:

    The Domestic Spying Renaissance
    http://online.securityfocus.com/columnists/90

    Tap, Tap, Tap
    http://online.securityfocus.com/columnists/85

    Information Resilience and Homeland Security
    http://online.securityfocus.com/columnists/80

    US cyber security may draft ISPs in spy game
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/25781.html

    ACLU Says Homeland Security Department Long on Secrecy,
    Short on Needed Accountability
    http://www.aclu.org/news/2002/n062002a.html

    I don't wanna start a debate on Internet Civil Rights, Freedoms, etc, etc because I could rant and rave my conspiracy theories for HOURS!!!

    Enjoy

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    They always have the key loger on but they claim that they get a warrent to snup but thats the bigest lie ive ever heard
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