November 14th, 2002, 07:11 AM
Possible power supply problem
I'm currently building a new system and I ran into a small problem. Purchased a new hard drive, motherboard, cdrw, and CPU. The tower is an older tower with the original power suppy.
The problem is that after I Fdisk then format and go to setup Win 98 it freezes up then says fatal error with a bunch of gibberish. Now when I hook up the hard drive to my own system and run set up, everything sets up fine and I can run the OS,
Now I go back hook the newly set up hard drive to the new system, when the Win 98 screen is loading I get error messages such as HIDEM.sys is missing please restart sytem. And of course no luck.
I'm starting to think it is possibly the power supply because it is pretty old and dusty and I have heard sometimes when a power supply is failing the OS will produce error messages.
Has anybody heard of anything like this? I know I should try replacing it but I do not have an extra right know and I just wanted to see if this could possibly be the case.
November 14th, 2002, 07:20 AM
I don't it because of power supply. My power supply blown before and I can't even start my pc. So if u on the switch and u can see the light or watever to ur pc, then ur power supply is ok. But I'm not sure bout ur pro, but may be sth else u done it wrong. So better check ur connection, ur wire everything inside ur box, and bios and try to start a windows.
Oh yess.. sorry if I'm wrong. (correct me plz)
November 14th, 2002, 11:59 AM
Did you run setup from (start setup from cd rom)-make cd rom your first boot device?, or did you run it from a slave drive in your system?Just make sure you run it from cd rom(change your first boot device to cd rom, ide0-second boot device.
hope this helps
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November 14th, 2002, 01:29 PM
The PSU can cause problems.. not just go, no-go symptoms.... Filtering problems or "noise" generated in the switching circuits can interfer with the operation of your computer. this can be random and can be regular (trigered on similar events)..
The problem here though while it could be the PSU, could also be a RAM fault.. ie the good old two sticks of RAM of different speed/brand/mood.. I noticed that most everything else is new but the RAM was not mentioned..... may need to check this out..
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November 14th, 2002, 02:38 PM
Yep check your ram out. Other possibility: HEAT . Make sure proper ventilation is used. Modern CPU's do need good cooling! The same goes for VGA cards and Northbridge on motherboard.
You should start with checking the cheapest component and going further. Therefor start with checking all cable connections, cables itself, make sure all cards are properly plugged in their slots, all jumpers or settings are correct. Next check your cooling? Is it working? Than Disks, Mobo, CPU, ...
It can be your PSU if it does not produce the right power output voltages needed your box will become very unstable. However quality PSU's switch off when they cannot deliver the right voltages to ensure proper operation conditions.
November 14th, 2002, 02:57 PM
If you have two computers which is what it sounds like, I would possibly think of taking all this new equipment and put it in your own system or just use your own systems power supply on the new stuff. If you get the same error then it would be your power supply or a bad ground on the motherboard.
Another thing to try is to make sure the processor is fully seated on the motherboard.
I suggest you continue this process with each piece of hardware (ie. Motherboard, Ram as others have said, Check your slave master settings like others have said)
I don't think its a heat problem if this is happening in the first minute it takes to boot this thing.
Hope this helps
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November 14th, 2002, 03:32 PM
specifics are always good... tell us the power supply wattage and manufacturer, what kind of motherboard you have, cpu, the ram and its age, etc.. That would help everyone help you out. For instance if you have an old Sparkle 200W power supply hooking that up to a new Athlon XP 1900.... obviously the old sparkle 200W isnt enough sparkle to tickle that Athlon.
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November 14th, 2002, 03:45 PM
We were having a whole bunch of problems like this yesterday with a PC we were setting up. It would keep freezing, then not find anything blah blah blah. It turned to be the controller on the mother board itself. That's just another idea, check your ram though like what has been mentioned already.
November 14th, 2002, 04:34 PM
one if the problems you might be having is your accedently over clocking your new processer
wich in some operating systems like XP, and some hardware causes problems in reading the hard drive.
Go over your manual and make sure this isnt the case, and if all else fails, under clock it and see what happens.
November 14th, 2002, 04:40 PM
The ram might be the problem because it is the original ram and now I have swapped the power supply with a new and still no luck. The ram sticks are a 64mb PC100 and a 32mb PC100. I am at work now and I'm going to grab a new PNY 128 PC 133 and throw it in. Don't think it is the controller because it reads all the devices fine.
It loads to the WIN 98 screen then after that I get the error messages telling me to restart. Sometimes it says HIMEM.SYS missing or something like NKLTER missing. I hope it is just the RAM. I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU.
Pine KLE133 MB
Seagate 20.0 HD
300 watt power supply
Good advice already, hope more information will help you guys. Thanks..