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Thread: what is a REAL hacker

  1. #1
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    what is a REAL hacker

    Just what exactly is hacker, a hacker by wrong-definition can be
    anything from a computer-user to someone who destroys everything they can get
    their evil terminals into. So what is a true hacker?
    Firstly, some people may not think I am entirely qualified to say,
    mainly because I don't consider myself a hacker yet. I'm still learning the
    ropes about it, but I think I have a pretty damn good idea of what a true
    hacker is. If I'm wrong, let one correct me...
    True hackers are intelligent, they have to be. Either they do really
    great in school because they have nothing better to do, or they don't do so
    good because school is terribly boring. And the ones who are bored aren't that
    way because they don't give a **** about learning anything. A true hacker wants
    to know everything. They're bored because schools teach the same dulll things
    over and over and over, nothing new, nothing challenging.
    True hackers are curious and patient. If you aren't, how can you work
    so very hard hacking away at a single system for even one small PEEK at what
    may be on it?
    A true hacker DOESN'T get into the system to kill everything or to sell
    what he gets to someone else. True hackers want to learn, or want to satisfy
    their curiosity, that's why they get into the system. To search around inside
    of a place they've never been, to explore all the little nooks and crannies
    of a world so unlike the boring cess-pool we live in. Why destroy something
    and take away the pleasure you had from someone else? Why bring down the
    whole world on the few true hackers who aren't cruising the phone lines with
    malicious intent?True hackers are disgusted at the way things are in this world. All the
    wonderful technology of the world costs three arms and four legs to get these
    days. It costs a fortune to call up a board in an adjoining state! So why
    pay for it? To borrow something from a file I will name later, why pay for
    what could be "dirt cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons"?
    Why be forced, due to lack of the hellacious cash flow it would require to
    call all the great places, to stay around a bunch of schmuck losers in your
    home town? Calling out and entering a system you've never seen before are
    two of the most exhilirating experiences known to man, but it is a pleasure
    that could not be enjoyed were it not for the ability to phreak...
    True hackers are quiet. I don't mean they talk at about .5 dB, I mean
    they keep their mouths shut and don't brag. The number one killer of those
    the media would have us call hackers is bragging. You tell a friend,"or you
    run your mouth on a board, and sooner or later people in power will find out
    what you did, who you are, and you're gone...
    The purpose of this file is for people read it, and know the truth about hackers. Not the lies that the i gnorant spread. To the true hackers out there, I hope I am portraying
    what you are in this file... If I am not, then I at least am saying what I
    think a true hacker should be. And to those wanna-be's out there who like
    the label of "HACKER" being tacked onto them, grow up, would ya?

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    Good points to ponder (means think about) at the basic start of it all was to learn not for bragging righs, profit, but to Understand. Best I can put it true hacking is all about understanding and apperciating those that know more or maybe less. Crap I forgot the shorthand text thing Again!
    I believe that one of the characteristics of the human race - possibly the one that is primarily responsible for its course of evolution - is that it has grown by creatively responding to failure.- Glen Seaborg

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    AntiOnline Senior Medicine Man
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    this has been covered before, but thaks for playing.

    P.S. And what exaclty are you trying to do with that Poll?
    It is better to be HATED for who you are, than LOVED for who you are NOT.

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  4. #4
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    Just about word for word The Ethics of Hacking written by Dissident
    located here: http://www.attrition.org/~modify/tex...f.hacking.html

    Dissident stated at the end "Spread it around, but don't change anything please. . ."

    Seems like a lot was changed and I would tend to add that it is helpful to credit the source of something like this.
    If you receive something that says \'Send this to everyone you know,\' pretend you don\'t know me.

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    "the boring cess-pool we live in"

    You live in the United States of America, you list hobbies such as "chess, skateboarding, etc", you have access to the internet, and you have an opinion you are allowed to voice. There are people on this planet who would view your life as an unimaginable gift. You have no idea what a "boring cess-pool" you could live in. Even a "true hacker", as you so humbly describe, with an attitude or outlook such as that, will never be happy no matter what they accomplish. Some people talk alot, they just don't say much.
    I\'d rather die on my feet than live my life on my knees.

    (Emiliano Zapata, a Mexican revolutionary in the early 1900s)

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    Dissident has written quite a few (as well as The Mentor) articles or manifesto type pages in the past, and they are still quoted by people and website's today. They both recognized that information about computers/security/network/etc should be spread and that no one should stop it. Thus create's people wanting free access to data and the nonstop flow of information.

    They weren't the one's who started it, however, their words and writings have influenced quite alot of today's famous/infamous hackers. They wanted (and probably still want, /me doesn't know where they are) for information to be free and that everyone should keep it that way.
    Space For Rent.. =]

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    Some Assembly Required ShagDevil's Avatar
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    Hacker or not, I only have a problem when a hobby(if you will) becomes counter-productive.
    When you benefit off someone elses misfortunes, then I tend to start having issues with it. Ironically enough, take a look at how capitalism functions(in some aspects) and you might start to wonder....just what the hell is going on anymore? Who exactly ARE the bad guys?
    The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his - George Patton

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    Hackers are creative thinkers not plagiarists.

    According to my definition, a hacker is one who learns any system well enough to make it work for him/her. Posts like this usually generate much positive attention toward the person who posts it. Although this was a good try it didn’t work.

    So I guess you’re ruled out on both counts.
    Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”

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    Old ancient one vanman's Avatar
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    Haven't we had one before..?Who is the best"Hacker or Cracker?"Personally I have to go with Tedob on this one and in my opinion a cracker(meaning security specialist)will always be the best because they have to stay one step ahead of the hacking society.Like shagdevil says"if you want to benefit from others misfortunes"I think it is evil and should be treated in a very serious light.

    Practise what you preach.

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