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Thread: BSA Sent my ISP this !!

  1. #1
    Senior Member
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    Jul 2001

    Unhappy BSA Sent my ISP this !!

    My poor ISP got this...... Me thinks my IP address got spoofed!!!

    What do you think ???

    RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the following copyrighted computer

    Autodesk AutoCAD
    Symantec Ghost
    Symantec Norton SystemWorks

    Dear Sir/Madam:

    The Business Software Alliance (BSA) has determined that the connection
    listed below, which appears to be using an Internet account under your
    control, is using a Gnutella network to offer unlicensed copies of
    copyrighted computer programs published by the BSA's member companies.

    Infringement Details:
    First Found: 17 Jan 2003 01:57:55 EST (GMT -0400)
    Last Found: 17 Jan 2003 07:59:25 EST (GMT -0400)
    IP Address:
    IP Port: 6346
    Protocol: Gnutella

    What was located as infringing content:
    Filename: Autodesk Autocad 2002 (ISO).zip (266,323kb)
    Filename: Autodesk AutoCAD 2002 Full (inc crack).zip (230,574kb)
    Filename: Autodesk Autocad 2002 full retail w serial.zip (244,768kb)
    Filename: Norton Ghost 7.0 Enterprise Edition(1).zip (31,241kb)
    Filename: Symantec Norton System Works Professional 2003.ISO (346,416kb)
    Filename: norton systemworks 2003.zip (85,807kb)
    Filename: pcAnywhere_v10.5_corporate_edition.iso (144,082kb)

    The above computer program(s) is/are being made available for copying,
    through downloading, at the above location without authorization from the
    copyright owner(s).

    Based upon BSA's representation of the copyright owners in anti-piracy
    matters, we have a good faith belief that none of the materials or
    activities listed above have been authorized by the rightholders, their
    agents, or the law. BSA represents that the information in this
    notification is accurate and states, under penalty of perjury, that it is
    authorized to act in this matter on behalf of the copyright owners listed

    We are giving notice of these activities pursuant to Section 512 of Title
    17 of the U.S. Code (as enacted by the 'Online Copyright Infringement
    Liability Limitation Act'). We expect that you will take expeditious action
    to remove or disable access to the materials described above, and thereby
    prevent the illegal reproduction and distribution of pirated software via
    your company's network. As you know, illegal on-line activities can result
    in 50 million people on the Internet accessing and downloading a copyrighted
    product worldwide without authorization - a highly damaging activity for the
    copyright holder.

    We appreciate your cooperation in this matter. Please advise us regarding
    what actions you take.

    Please include the following CaseID in any response you send: Case ID 496642

    Yours sincerely,

    John R. Wolfe
    Manager of Investigations
    Business Software Alliance
    1150 18th St NW Suite 700
    Washington, DC 20036
    URL: http://www.bsa.org
    E-mail: copyright@bsa.org
    Franklin Werren at www.bagpipes.net
    Yes I do play the Bagpipes!

    And learning to Play the Bugle

  2. #2
    The Iceman Cometh
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Guess it teaches you to stop using P2P clients to download pirated software...


  3. #3
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    I do not use P2P
    Franklin Werren at www.bagpipes.net
    Yes I do play the Bagpipes!

    And learning to Play the Bugle

  4. #4
    Yikes. That's not good at all. Do you run the ISP? Or was this from your ISP to you?

    Also, if you have not been using p2p, you can tell BSA you have not been using it and investigate the matter yourself by checking for backdoors, blocking the Gnutella port(s). When BSA sends you a nasty letter like this, it is time to act, because if they still see the downloading going on (if it's from your connection or not) prepare for serious legal problems.

    What do you think might have led to this? Also, can you ask them HOW they found "you" doing it? Lastly, if you are running the ISP, somebody within the network might be running a "node." I would check it out...

    Best of luck,


  5. #5
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    Jun 2002
    well even if you were running p2p, they have the file names but they don't have the files so they can't prove what the files really are/were, because file names and extensions can be changed as can file sizes, unless THEY downloaded the entire files from you. but you aren't, like you said, running p2p so don't worry about it and contact the John R. Wolfe guy to rectify the situation with your internet logs for the above mentioned times in hand.
    Hmm...theres something a little peculiar here. Oh i see what it is! the sentence is talking about itself! do you see that? what do you mean? sentences can\'t talk! No, but they REFER to things, and this one refers directly-unambigeously-unmistakably-to the very sentence which it is!

  6. #6
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    Jul 2001

    Angry BSA

    My ISP has already done that....
    But like I said... is Spoofing my IP address is possible....
    Also check my firewall and 6346 is not open.
    Franklin Werren at www.bagpipes.net
    Yes I do play the Bagpipes!

    And learning to Play the Bugle

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    i think their going to give you a fair trial then take you out and hang you. j/k

    if its not you stand up for yourself.

    if it is you get yourself a new harddrive and through the one you have now in the river
    Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”

  8. #8
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    This is the kind of $$$$ that makes me think BSA deserves a good swift kick in the assets. Don't believe me, check out http://www.the-underdogs.org and take a look at their battle with the BSA - they were told to take a game off their site that hasn't been published in over 20 years...


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    An\' it harm none, do as ye will. - Wiccan Rede

  9. #9
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    Jul 2002


    Just tell them that you'll look into the matter and find who is responsable.... This should atleast buy you some time for better trojan scans and FW updates. I've seen peaple share files off of office PCs before so you may want to take a good look at some of your co-workers' activities. If all else fails keep eveything calm by being nice....

    In other words send this attachment along with a letter & ask how did they come to the conclusion that you were runing a haven for piracy?

    Hummm .... What is your network like? Got any bridged networks that could be running FTP?

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