February 17th, 2003, 06:23 PM
February 17th, 2003, 06:36 PM
I agree... as to what causes people to write this kind malicious software; I think it's the feeling of p0wer that some might gain from the idea that something they created (a pseudo-life form) can survive (and how well it can propagate/thrive) much like a living species (although Iíve seen very few that really evolve?) when you take a look at it that way, itís quite interesting... too bad they canít figure out another way to play anyway- thatís just my thought on itÖ
yeah, I\'m gonna need that by friday...
February 17th, 2003, 06:41 PM
Yup, that's exaclty why Linux rules so much..
if there is something you don't like (or something exploitable) you can fix it and get credit !!
in the Microsoft world, you can't get it fixed (wait 23 months for an update ) so you'll have to prove the point . . .
It's the only way to make redmont fix their **** ( or even let some other firm do it )..
PS. I'm not pro virii, just pro linux
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February 17th, 2003, 08:53 PM
Good paper on this
You've probably all seen this before, but I liked this paper on the subject:
668 - the neighbor of the beast
February 18th, 2003, 01:07 AM
There are probably as many reasons to write virii as there are psychotics who can program. The question is not why they do it, but how we can stop them. The prospects of prison doesn't stop them because no one commits a crime with the intention of being caught. Prison is a good place for them but you have to catch them first, which means they have caused problems.
We can make it more difficult for them. We can keep our systems up to date. We can work with security personell while developing system specifications and have them test our systems after being written. There are a myriad of details we can work on to keep our systems safe and funcitoning BUT we don't. It costs too much or it takes too much time.
We are part of the problem because we have given them the opportunity to distribute the malware. Perhaps if we were more vigilant there would be less damage.
February 18th, 2003, 06:31 AM
Yeah that's sad that people get a kick out of writing things to go destroy other people's stuff. The scary thing too is a lot of these types of programmers are not usually bullies or anything. In the real world they are normal people, but they have an extreme know how of computers. When it comes to them being online, they can sit and take out their frustrations on everyone. Kind of makes you think about the super evil enemies in the movies.
More and more I think there has been an increase because of media, but I think mainly they do it because they can. It's a high for some, it's a challenge for others, and some just do it because they stubbed their toe getting out of bed in the morning.
It's part of life though, you have the good and the bad. There is no perfect utopia, even in cyber space. Which is a very sad fact in one sense, but think if there were no hackers/virii coders... there would be no Norton Antivirus programmers, or Microsoft having all their exploit issues, all those jobs that wouldn't exsist. Food for thought...
Personally I think that without the "troubles" of computers, there would be no challenge. I like a challenge! Plus with as well I seem to understand and work with computers, I sometimes find it fun kicking a hackers @$$ all over the Internet!
[shadow]There is no right and wrong, only fun and boring...
Formatting my server because someone hacked into it sounds pretty boring to me...
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