my rant

[gore]

this has been Bothering me for a while, i guess ill post and see what your
opinions are on it.

Ok, this hole war thing, is really bothering me, it started out with attacks on
buildings here...What is this World coming to? We are supposed to be a loving
and intelligent
kind,
but everytime i read the paper or watch the news, all i see is war, why? I dont
understand, if you have a problem with someone, talk it out, dont send people to

destroy buildings
and kill innocent people and then the retaliation? send troops there and kill
innocent people that have nothing to do with what happened, thats horrible, I
dont see a point in
all this, i think Slayer said it best "The sport is War total War, its not a
training its not a drill, its how many people i can kill!"
thats about what a War is to me, have people forgot that they have a mouth? what

the hell do you need a gun for? just once id like to turn on the news and not
see something
worse than all of my 89 horror movies combined on TV, and everytime we have a
war the media jumps all over it so we can sit at home and watch people destroy
each other, thats
bullshit, then when some kid getting bullied brings a gun to school and starts
killing people, the media turns around and points fingers and Manson and other
artists and says
there lyrics made them do it....hmmm that coverage showing innocent people being

killed didnt have anything to do with it at all now did it. and whats all this
for? Oil, if you
dont think so then why would they say "dont destroy oil feilds"

You know as far as science has gotten, youd think they could make synthetic oil
by now, they seem to have no problem at all playing God and making human clones
wich in my opinion
is a buncha ****, people have no right being up in God's business and seeing how

life works, scientists really piss me off sometimes, how nosey can you be? i
mean what would make
you wanna clone someone? "ohhhh we could use the clones as organ donars" ummm
yea, right, if i needed an organ ill be sure as hell not taking one from
something another human made
like that, the only reason computers give us problems is because people made
them, a machine cant be perfect when theres no way the people that programmed it

are, thats why we
have computer problems, it isnt because the machine is stupid, no the machine
isnt stupid, its doing as it was told in programmed intrsuctions, nothing more
nothing less, yet
people will still point there fingers everytime somethings wrong, oh the computer

screwed up"
No it didnt, the person that made it screwed up, the computer cant think, wich
is why even though they are millions of times faster, theyll never succeed, well of

course theres the
other scientists that piss me off that work on AI, What gives you a right to
create a thinking machine? you know i collect horror movies and people say there
stupid or nothing but
violence and gore, but the people that say this, are usually the ones that are
to stupid to read between the lines, for example one of the things you can learn

from horror, Dawn
of the Dead and Day of the dead by the MAN George Romero, Dawn of the Dead has a

saying "when theres no more room in hell, The dead will walk the Earth....seems
pretty honest to
me, if hell fills up because of all the bad people we will be taught a lesson,
Wich was part of Day of the Dead, the one man in there says "Maybe we are
experiancing this because
God is teaching us a lesson, we are messin with his stuff and we got into things

that were to big for our britches" am i the only one that sees that has truth to

it? look around
you, people are trying to create human beings in an unnatural way, and then of
course the War, what a nice way of saying were the smartest race alive, lets
destroy ourselves,
theres enough weapons to destroy the earth....that bothers me beyond what i
could type. Animals people think are stupid like for example a donkey, people call
it an ass, well at
least its not plotting how to destroy anyone...i dont think, is it just me or is

it true that if stupidity hurt Morphine would be over the counter in 3 hours
because people dont
know when to say stop, its annoying that a scientist can create another human
being but cant create oil or something to help with the problems in the
world...I'v heard a million
times how computers and the computer people are the reason there are so many
problems....hmmm i dont think we ever started a war, and were not playing
around making things with
3 asses and 5 noses just "because we can".

Now, this is just my opinion on things bothering me, so if anyone has this huge
problem with something i said lets keep our language happy ok? actually...
nevermind, im against
censorship of any kind so say exactly what you feel, but im really curiouse what

you all think of this, it bothers me that people with that many degrees can be
so stupid, i think
im gunna work on a fountain of smart, hell with youth we need something for the
idiots of the world that for some reason have no problem blowing up a bus of
small children or
kiling people that havent done anything to them, i mean come one, even jack the
Ripper had a reason, he killed prostitutes, woman that had a price on there
dignity, but what do
people today kill for? Oil, Money, Pride, and "because im right and your wrong"
bullshit, hmm, we all know my feelings about drug laws already, back when Jack
the ripper was
around, Opium was legal, you werent gunna be sitting in jail for relaxing,
everyone says drugs are the reason countries have problems....hmmmm lets see,
what was the last report
on violence? i do believe america led the world in violent crimes...ok now to
amsterdam, they have laws on drugs but nothing like the US, your allowed to have

drugs on you and do
them, here, youd be jailed for the same thing, whats there crime rate compared
to ours again? ohhhh yea not even half if i remember correctly.

the reason people here are killed over drugs? oh yea thats because there against

the law, think about prohibition, people were killed over alcohol, the Mob had
total control with
it basically and then people "just drank anyway" so they took it away, a strange

fact i found while watching the history channel you wont see in your history
book, when the
president did away with prohibition, he was the first person to make a cocktail
after he signed the paper, hmm people do drugs regaurdless of the law, why do we

still put people
in cells for smoking a bowl or having Opium on them? ohhhh its addictive!!!!! oh
no!!!! nothing else is that addictive right? hahahaha yea right, Caffiene is
more addictive and
also, you could overdose and die from coffee before you could pot, im not saying

lets fill the streets with people trippin on LSD or all coked up, no, see i know

those are
bad....well sorta, some people react ok to acid, i know alot of people that have

done it with no problems at all, but there are those who are dumb about it, and
coke? well, what
do you think they give you in the hospitol when you have eye surgury done?
yea thats right cocain, and its not like the Presidents never done that either
huh, and the last one
liked pot, and dont get me started how many of our forefathers that started this

country did opium, **** id be typing all day, Winston churchill smoked opium in
college, Thomas
Jefferson (THE FIRST Punk rocker....he said we need a revolution every hundred
years just to shake **** up, now thats punk rock!!!!! lol) anyway, Thomas J
grew opium in his
garden, oh also, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, hmm what kinda paper is
it written on? lets see, oh yea HEMP PAPER, so why all the cells getting filled

over Opium and
Pot? hmm, maybe we wouldnt have so many problems in the world if people wernt so

anti drug all the time, think about it, have you ever heard someone smoking a
bowl and beating
there wife and kids? no, but a father getting drunk and coming home and beating
his wife and kids is almost a daily event, My friends brother told his DR he
smokes pot, his DR
said, keep doing it, if you stop youll prolly go nuts, hmmm, oh and those damned

truth commercials, oh man, dont get me started, every damn thing they use
against pot, would be
the same against alcohol, you notice how they never have opium in that? yea
because they cant come up with enough bad things to put in a commercial, i love
argueing about drug
laws, if only i could challenge the people that have the power the legalize
opium again (it was legal untill the 1940s....you can thank opium for our
railroads) to a discussion,
if i win the arguement, opium becomes legal, if i lose....ha, lol i dont think i

would, theres seriously not many bad side effects to opium, besides its being
addictive, wich is
like stupid, lots of things are addictive, but there legal....well, anyway i
guess ill finish this up, id like to hear your opinons on this. so please, let
me know how you feel,
by the way, im not trying to offend anyone, and im not trying to start a war or
a flame war about anything, so lets keep are minds open and our thoughts
posotive ok?

[meloncholy]

Whoa man. You have some issues. Do you actually know whats going on around this world? You think buildings here being blown was the start of this whole war? Dig a little deaper. People just don't fly planes into buildings to start wars. People love to rant about war being bad and all this, well I agree war is bad, but sometimes the alternate is even worse. Instead of saying how bad war is, give a well thought out alternative to war. Leave Saddam in power - no. Let the "inspections" continue, OK, how much longer? Its been 12 years! They are scientist, not detectives. The whole reason they are there is for the Iraqi government to show them how they disposd of the weapons they had, not to be jerked around guessing where the weapons are. I'm not all for war, but if other countries in this world would stand up for themselves or not look at thier own personal interest instead of the good of the world, we wouldn't be in this position right now. Police up your own, and the US won't have to do it for you! I know that sounds arrogant, but think about it. Sure the US has made plenty of world issue mistakes, but in most cases they are stepping in because neighboring countries can't settle things themselves.

As far as the cloning issue. You would not be typing on your computer today if it was not for someones curiosity in electronics. That is what drives the human race. Learning, exploring. If we never had the desire to learn about new things, we would still be living in caves, killing and eating who knows what, and living a very pointless life. Who knows what could come from cloning. If stem cell research could grow a liver that would save my mothers life, you damn well bet I would sign her up to receive one. Thats a quality of life improvement. Think of all the things YOU use on a daily basis that came from scientist research that was probably condemed in thier day.

I hate to sound negative towards you, but I would really hate to be you. You sound like a very angry person.

[gore]

i am a very angry person.

anyway, i use a computer a lot, but youll notice in my post, computers and electricity i didnt say were bad, i think curiousity can be a good thing, but people shouldnt be curiouse in things they have no right in knowing, listen to a song called "Dont open till Doomsday" by the Misfits, then, go rent or buy the movies Day of the Dead and Dawn of the dead, and maybe Zombie to, they are great movies that have a good point.

[Noia]

War Sucks.
People in general are sheep, and will follow wot ever the rumors say.
War Sucks.
We are the only living thing on this planet, with the power to make it better, and we don't.
War Sucks.
Wa are the oly living thing on this planet to kill each other over stupid things (i.e: Snowball?!!)
War Sucks.
Um...I'm running out of things to rant about....
War sucks.

Ok, that was my rant.....Just though Id be a sheep and follow

- Noia

[MrBert]

well this war is the resulst of the cold war. The US hated russia som much that when the afgan people were at war with russia the US trained Bin Ladin and his men to kill the russian that we hated so much. then when we hated iran we trained and armed the iraqi army headed by husain to kill them. then when we started to dislike hussain we decided that we could get the iranians to kill the iraqis. then after all that blood has been spilled. someone realized that the us has the bigest army cause it does not use it unless it really has to. in the war following 9/11 we employed the afgan tribes to fight against the taliban. now that the us has pissed off 95% of the world we have to do it ourselves in iraq. and that is how you have todays situation.

[allenb1963]

Originally posted here by MrBert
well this war is the resulst of the cold war

Wrong answer man. The causes of this war go further back than that. England screwed all kinds of stuff up a century ago when they divided the middle east up with map lines that paid no heed to ethnicity or religion (where do you think Kuwait came from in the first place?). We, the United States, then spent the next hundred years screwing it up further with a foriegn policy that had nothing to do with the interests of US citizens (or citizens of any country for that matter) and EVERYTHING to do with the interests of BIG BUSINESS. Unfortunately this trend will continue until our country enacts election reform laws that take the power away from corporations and put it back in the hands of the people where it belongs. I hope to live to see that day, but I doubt that I will because there are very few politicians with the kahunas to stand up for election reform....to dissent from the current power structure would most likely bring about immediate political death.

It's not a Democrat thing, it's not a Republican thing.....it's a greed thing pure and simple.

[nabylbt]

I agree with allenb1963,
A lot of the roots of conficts did come out of the splits up of the decolonistaion process, look at the indochina area with vietnam, laos, cambodgia.... they were all old french colonies, the problems in africa only results from different ethnic people put together on paper because it was convienient for the colonial power.
We know what happened in south asia, what is happeneing in the middle east, can it be possible to prevent the same form happening again in africa ?

[neel]

Killing someone because of a snowball... And it actually happened in the Netherlands.

[thread_killer]

Gore,
I have the site for you. It's called Aspectus. It's run by JD Frazer, the guy behind User Friendly and it is a small community of people who generally have intelligent discussions about life, the universe and everything. (Sorry Doug Adams). The impending spectre of war is quite the hot topic over there right now. If you are interested in a free exchange of view points, from all sides of the spectrum, you should check it out.

[rcgreen]

And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou ********* not eat?

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