ok, at my friends house like every 2 hours or so using backdoor/sub7. We downloaded a trojan cleaner(i dont remember the name, 30 day trial) and we got rid of a total of 19 or so trojans and it said no more existed. but still we get attacked every so often although he has norton internet security and it always stops them. If you could tell us how to get rid of the trojans or a software to do it that would be awesome! thanks : )