i think we can all agree that, regardless of whether or not these two know what they're talking about, they whine entirely too much? i will say that mitnick was treated unfairly by the government, but that's all over now. there's no way in hell that he will get any type of recompense for what wrong was done to him. had he not been completely stupid in the ways of...generally smart people(?), he wouldn't have had this problem. so he should just shut his damned mouth now. bernie s. was one person who was royally ****ed by our legal system. and what has happened to him? well, i really don't know...

wow...in that whole paragraph, i don't think i said anything interesting...