March 29th, 2003, 06:26 AM
This constant anti-France bullshit is getting to be a pain in the arse. I mean, ****ing 'Freedom Fries' and 'Freedom Toast'? This coming from grown men, who (apparently) passed through the phase of adolescence decades ago, but after this sort of move that could be debated.
So I get a popup today with a picture of President Chirac and 'Boycott France' in bold type. Wanting to see what it was on about, I clicked on it, and came to this piece of ****:
Support America! Boycott Cowardly France!
Before anyone says anything, I want to say that I know that France was not taking the moral high ground by saying they would veto the resolution. France (and Russia) had investments in oil in Iraq, and obviously it wanted to protect those investments. That point I am not debating.
The real reason why France is trying to block America
The French claim they are fighting for peace and taking the moral high ground by attempting to block support for America’s campaign to eliminate Saddam Hussein.
That’s a pack of self-serving lies.
The reality is that France has been in bed with the genocidal Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for decades. As the New York Post reports:
France has massive investments in Iraq (and has made a fortune out of the U.N. oil-for-food program). Everyone knows that it is worried that a successor regime might not honor contracts made by Saddam.
For decades France has been taking blood money from one of the worst dictators on earth, and now they’re guardians of morality? I don’t think so.
Paris is in fact a charter member of the “Axis of Weasel” and the French don’t care that their efforts not only may cause American men and women to die needlessly but also put millions in the U.S. and throughout the world at risk of a new wave of terrorist attacks, as long as they can protect their blood money.
It's just that coming from America, these are the most hypocritical arguments against another country ever. France is pretty much looking after their own interests; however their recommendation to continue inspections is the more sensible and peaceful route when compared to outright invasion. The US of course is also looking after its own interests, however for them this involves a long, drawn-out campaign which is doing a lot more damage than Iraq's fabled weapons of mass destruction ever could.
To talk about France being 'in bed' with Hussein, is just so stupid it's unbelievable. This is coming from a country who maintained support for Hussein even after he used chemical weapons to quell a Kurdish uprising, and supported him throughout the Iran Iraq war. ****.
Anway, this inane campaign proposed by this group of people is to boycott all goods from France.
The time has come to hit ungrateful,
cowardly France where it counts: in the wallet.
As the war on terrorism heats up, now is the time for all patriotic Americans to show their support for our President and our country.
That is why NewsMax is launching our national "Boycott Cowardly France Campaign". With your help, we can reach millions.
If Paris wants to keep profiting from Saddam Hussein, Americans should just say no to French goods.
Boycott all things French: their gooey cheeses, their overpriced wines, their rip-off Perrier and Evian water, their crummy automobiles...
And most of all we will be boycotting their white flags. As President Bush said, we shall not surrender to evil and terrorists.
Please take a moment now and stand up for our country, our boys in uniform, and all who oppose terrorism by supporting our "Boycott Cowardly France Campaign".
NewsMax plans a nationwide ad campaign to encourage Americans to boycott France. You can help us. Please send what you can afford $50, $20, even $10. It will send France a message they will never forget.
So France said they'd boycott your ****ing resolution. Not like it changed jack ****ing ****, you still invaded Iraq. What about all those Israeli resolutions. There were something like 32 which came through with all positive/abstaining votes - oh, except for the US veto. Nothing you could count on like that US veto for the Israel resolutions. The US is more 'cowardly' for not bringing Israel to account for its actions, than France is cowardly for investigating more peaceful routes to disarmament in Iraq. No-one said 'moral majority', or 'boycott US' when those resolutions were discarded.
This will not only inform millions of Americans, but send a wake up call to France, and make them reluctant to obstruct America, Britain and other allies.
So to all those people who want to 'boycott France' : Grow the **** up.
March 29th, 2003, 09:56 AM
I've been boycotting France for years as I'll boycott any country that forms economic alliances that serve the purpose of closing the doors or obstructing the markets of my country's products.
It amazes me that all of these "open market" and "global economy" types all target the US manufacturers.
Yeah. I'll boycott France but not over this war. Besides even Australian wines taste better than French ones!
"Somehow saying I told you so just doesn't cover it" Will Smith in I, Robot
March 29th, 2003, 10:46 AM
Well USA and UK use oil of iraq too and have commercial exchange with them. So USA boycotts France because we are disagree on a point of view, so when you're not right with a friend of yours you go and find someone who is always right with you. If all the country who are against the war boycott the US, the US economy will fall down dramaticaly (In france for example we use more US merchandise than US use France merchandise). In the early 80, saddam was a friend with all the country. A UK newspaper (I don't remember which one) said that it's the UK gourvernment who have construct the chimistry factory so why USA continu the relation ship with UK ?
March 29th, 2003, 10:11 PM
I found the very idea of boycotting a country that decided it wanted nothing to do with the actual fighting of the war in Iraq childish. So what if we helped them in WWII? Does it mean that every time we want to jump off of a bridge, that they must too? Has the world gone mad? Must we use such infantile methods to bully other countries into supporting our policies. I still call french toast french toast, and french fries french fries. Always have, and until I feel otherwise, always will be.
Welcome to Hell , where we have served more than all of the fast food chains put together! And the number grows everyday! Stay tuned!
March 29th, 2003, 11:08 PM
It's good to see that Powertoad got negged and fourdc got umm.. positived! It's good to see that, although George Walker Texas Ranger LOVES French toast, he ordered to have it renamed on AirForce 1. It's good to see that some people prefer Australian wine above French wine (if you're used to American wine, I can imagine Australian wine tasting better than French one, yup yup - no offence to Australian wine.. maybe you should once do a study on the grapes used to produce Australian wine and come to the conclusion that they use French-cultivated grapes!)! Good to see you prefer McDonalds' engineered meat above whatever the French use in their McDonalds (hey look, they have McDonalds in Europe... Hey look, 'engineered meat' is forbidden in Europe, I wonder why... )...
*Sigh* Now can we grow up? The idea of blocking Coca-Cola (THE American symbol) has been brought up here, but we've been able to block it - 20k Belgians work for Coca-Cola. I surely hope no Americans work for a French company... Oh wait... lots of Americans do... damn). Did someone tell Clinton to stop playing his Saxophone (Belgian - WE ARE IN IT WITH THE FRENCH!! You always seem to forget about us! WE ARE AT LEAST AS GUILTY AS THE FRENCH SINCE WE STARTED IT!!!)?
Fourdc, I'm sorry for you. You don't know what you're missing.
March 30th, 2003, 03:52 AM
My favorite grapes are Italian grapes. The California wines I enjoy are usually cultivated from Italian grapes. I lived in Gaeta, Italy for 3 years, I'll take a bottle of Est, Est, est di Montefiascone over any other wine in the world.
Having worked in McDonald's as a youth, I would never let anyone I liked eat there. There was a scandal (hoax maybe) about using worms instead of beef. Of course, in survival school I ate a few bugs...
"Somehow saying I told you so just doesn't cover it" Will Smith in I, Robot
April 5th, 2003, 08:47 PM
I read it in a dutch paper somewere a little while ago. I don't remeber the exact figures, but it was along these lines: "Top veto use: 1.USA(about 150) 2.France and Russia (with Iraq included 10 each) ...". Now what the hell are they whineing about then. It's ethicaly wrong for france to use their veto if the security counsil had a majority for a war? Why the hell do we have a veto for? What the hell is majority if the biggest nations use their veto, so they seem to be against? Is the use of a veto the US used so many many times wrong or something? Why is france cowardly when it stands up against the worlds most powerfull nation, only protected by our very very thin layer of civilisation.
I knew people who fully agreed with the US of A and thought it was a strong, diciplined and well coordinated etc. nation. After reading the bullshit of freedom fries and whatever ALL of them lost their trust. Now they all see Americans as the fat stupid arses who appear to be in front of the tv watching funniest home videos all day with a XXXXL bag of popcorn. << Really happened.
April 6th, 2003, 11:29 PM
Well i think France is being an obstuctionist, I agree with the boycot but we all know it wont last that long. Now that the U.S is closer to ending the current war, France all of the sudden wants to play a big role. After their spectacle at the U.N, i doubt the U.S will let them have it their way, afterall it was the coalition's blood shed for the Iraqi's freedom not the French. Just what i think.
April 7th, 2003, 03:55 AM
I think the boycott is absolutely ridiculous.. all it shows is how small-minded a lot of people really are.... And it's not just France that the Americans are doing it to.... I'm originally from Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario... which is on the border with Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan.. The people from Soo, MI are being a$$'s for lack of a better word. The grocery stores and gas stations have signs up that say "We don't serve Canadian's" and a friend of the family was at the Casino in Soo, MI and when they left to get in their car, their tires had been slashed, a bunch of other cars with Ontario license places had also had their tires slashed. This is ridiculous.. The US has already dragged their reputation threw the mud with the majority of the world by going to war, now they are just making things worse by proving how small minded and petty they really are. All I have to say is Grow Up.
April 7th, 2003, 06:29 AM
From Nuremberg Diary by Gustave Gilbert:
The people from Soo, MI are being a$$'s for lack of a better word. The grocery stores and gas stations have signs up that say "We don't server Canadian's" and a friend of the family was at the Casino in Soo, MI and when they left to get in their car, their tires had been slashed, a bunch of other cars with Ontario license places had also had their tires slashed. This is ridiculous..
...in the process working them into a mad frenzy whereby they regress to a pre-neanderthal stage and decide to take petty action against pacifistic countries like Canada for not wanting any part in their war. Slashing car tires? I thought people gave **** like that up in highschool.
We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."