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    Originally posted here by jared_c
    His knowledge and experience in computers is also outdated. There is no way that someone who was banned from touching computers for years can be up to date with current technology.

    No kidding. The guy is in prison for how long and all of a sudden he is released into a completely different world of computers to become a computer security specialist? WTF!!! You turn your back on the industry once and you have to struggle to get back up to date, and if you take a vacation that coincides with some major exploits discovery, you come back and your whole network is 0\/\/n3d by highschool students that downloaded some ready-made program... He gets thrown into prison when computer dinosaurs still roamed the earth, gets let out in the space age, and is an expert?

    Its rediculous. He was only a hacker because he was tried as one, which is the fault of the District Attorney not him. If they hadn't trumped up the charges and tried him like he had committed the crimes he had committed than he would have served his time, saved the courts some money and faded into history as the shmuck criminal that he is...

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    at the end of the day I believe it's just a matter of skills and trust:
    - skills: are you good at? Yes? Well I don't care about your past, you can work for me.
    - trust: can I trust you as a person? Yes? Well, I don't care about your past, you can work for me.
    Any of them is "no", well (again , you ain't working for me.

    About KM? Mhm, he's a very good "marketing" guy and he can sell his stuff. Good for him.

    Bye.

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    I'm not trying to sound anti-hacker or anti-criminal no-sense. My point is there any redemption
    among man kind. A man\woman has to make a living, especially living in such a capitialist world :-{

    The media loves it job exploiting people, and silly as it sounds ppl...
    they love listening to tha hype, especially those in power, they pay these nomanic ppl...
    to miss lead the commoners.

    Skill or not! U have to make a living:-V

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    Geez. Reading that article made me think of a circus act or freak show or a zoo exhibit. Why did he agree to do it if he knew what was going to happen? If all he's doing is rehashing stuff that people already know, then he's probably just out to be a media whore as others have stated. Maybe because of the fact his knowledge is outdated he's trying to hide from having to deal with it.

    Redemption is one thing. I don't know if I'd hire a hacker to be a security officer. But then again, I'd be careful about who I'd hire in the first place. It's no different than other criminal types. I wouldn't hire a pedophile to run a daycare. They have an addiction about their "crime". A hacker can be no different. For same (re: The Cuckoo's Egg and @Large) hacking and breaking into systems is an addiction.
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    Correct, a employer would need to take precautions to who they hire or not.
    I realized he is a media whore too. All I was stating, either give him a job or not. If not then the media shouldn't make it a there job to broadcast it to the world. Guess, uncle sam has to set a example for those interesting to see. I know it is also his bad, too by having the media
    exploit him in the news like that just to have others to have sympathy for him. U cares, we have a life to live too. If he can get a IT-related job maybe should try another line of work or start is own business. Point is stop trying to get ppl... sympathy those who bought your book thank them. Or maybe become a Author, if all else fails :-T

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    Yawn. . .The company hired him for name only. . . Now they can tell investors, "Lookie, we have the most famous hacker working at OUR company! We are the safest!" Not even caring to realize that it's just all bullshit. He probably sits around playing solitare all day, and signing autographs to kids who think he's still all that. Yawn.
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    I have to respond to this one. Would you let a bank robber come back to your bank and work as a manager who has all the keys and codes to the money vault????????????
    No me. Part of justice is not being able to have access to your former life style that caused you to commit the crime. Why reward this guy? Will he be loyal to his new company? Or at the frist sign of stress from his employer will he wreak havoc on their network. Leave a back dorr and post the password where everybody can get it. I would not trust a thief no matter how reformed with the keys to the house without at least some kind of heavy supervision. That my 2 cents....
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    The fact that it's a hacker who has faced imprisonment in his history actually shows that the `hacker' is less likely to hack you than your general security admin. If he's been caught before I'd severely doubt he'd do it again, where he's working, where's it's almost certain capture.

    You face more of a chance of getting hacked by someone else with no history of hacking than one that does have a history.. and less they like prison.

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    Originally posted here by ReLik
    The fact that it's a hacker who has faced imprisonment in his history actually shows that the `hacker' is less likely to hack you than your general security admin. If he's been caught before I'd severely doubt he'd do it again, where he's working, where's it's almost certain capture.

    You face more of a chance of getting hacked by someone else with no history of hacking than one that does have a history.. and less they like prison.
    I think the fact that he went to jail shows that he wasn't very good at hacking which let him get caught (he was a wonderful social engineer, bad hacker). Especially in the late 80's early 90's there where plenty of ways into systems (there was a back door in Unix for a while, and passwords where plain text) that you didn't need to social engineer. Added to that the fact that a lot of companies still used PBX systems making phreaking easier and catching a good hacker was next to impossible. Kevin took on major companies where he didn't have the skills to do so.


    I wonder what ever happened to No Where Man, or Hades? Most of the LOD? We never even learned the good hackers real names.

    I a msure they are working in Computer security somewhere if computers don't bore them yet..

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    I wasn't necessarily talking about mitnick, he's more 'ha' than 'hacker', i was talking hypothetically about hackers getting jobs at companies as security analysts, admins etc.

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