thanx for the effort, the backdoor.gatecrasher info is the right thing. As for "playin",....well let's just say I was kind of "playin" with a bunch of 16-20 year olds in Iran. Went to their chat room in Yahoo chat,never did that before. Guess it's the same as using ICQ when it comes to Trojans.& I got burnt!! (I'm sure) ya outa see the hits (pings?) I'm gettin from Asia!