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June 25th, 2003, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
 Definetly a Virus
I have recently recieved a laptop from my mothers friend who doesnt know jack about computers. It runs windows 2000 prof. My mom said that her friend thinks its infected with a virus. It was running Norton 2002 when I got it, so I uninstalled that and installed Norton 2003. Now my problem is that after installation Auto Protect wasnt enabled. When I go to Enable it it closes. Then I restarted it and it told me that a virus was trying to edit the Anti virus settings in the registry. When I open Noroton it closes on its own sometimes too. Also msconfig doesnt work for some reason. She thinks its the Bugbear virus. I ran some W32 bugbear removal program but it said "No Virus Detected". Well this is where I am at.
Any Suggestions? Any web sites u guys might know of that I can do a scan or some kind of countermeasures. Would appreciate any comments as long as there to the point, plz no replys about reinstalling. Ive done the basics. Thanx
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June 25th, 2003, 07:46 AM
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"Never give in-never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy!" - Winston Churchill
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June 25th, 2003, 08:52 AM
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June 25th, 2003, 10:07 AM
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The original w32 bugbear virus came out last fall, I believe, but the new variant is bugbear.b which I had the unpleasant opportunity to remove from my mom's computer. If you tried to remove bugbear.b with a fix for the original, then it wont work (I tried it). The thing that did work for me (after scanning with symantec's online scanner) was a program symantec had a link to called stinger.exe. It scans for and repairs about 15 different viruses including bugbear and bugbear.b, so if nothing else works, that could be worth a try. Anyway, good luck.
Darwin\'s rollin\' over in his coffin, The fittest are surviving much lest often,
Now everything seems to be reversing, And it\'s worsening!
--nofx, American Errorist
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June 25th, 2003, 10:52 AM
#5
I also had a problem with a friend who had bugbear.b - a 4 year old system, no AV scanner, no Windows updates etc. 
Really badly screwed! Stinger worked for me, and I then put her system back together.
Stinger is at stinger (McAfee link).
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June 25th, 2003, 12:43 PM
#6
Remember that Bugbear is one of a group of virii that disable your AV, disable msconfig, regedit, Ctl-Alt-Del, firewall.. etc
ALWAYS follow the removal instructions.. In most cases the individual removal tools work 100%.. When they don't it is because it is for the wrong varient or wrong virus..
virus was trying to edit the Anti virus settings in the registry
the defs in NAV2003's install are about 10months old.. pre most of the nasties we see today..
be aware that since 2003 was released, the following have turned up on the scene bugbear, bugbear.b, Yaha.c-whatever, sobig and more, all that will do act the way you mention.. some will give you a veryhard time installing AV's on some os's..
Also DID the installation restart the computer near completion of AV Install? what happened here..btw most of the bugs mentioned won't let you install the av anyhow..
Ahhh hell..STOP Right there Unless you have added it in.. Bloody Win2k don't have MSCONFIG.. so no wonder that don't work!!
Just what was wrong with it for the ppl to think it had a virus?.. it could have had a bloated startup! ie to much **** runniig in the background.. causing slugish operation
or a damaged driver causing the machine to run in a slugish manner..
Or it could have a hardware problem..causing slugish operation or random crashes
cheers
"Consumer technology now exceeds the average persons ability to comprehend how to use it..give up hope of them being able to understand how it works." - Me http://www.cybercrypt.co.nr
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June 26th, 2003, 08:29 AM
#7
sorry bout the last post, a friend of mine was on my computer and posted because Im set to auto log in. I wouldnt have known only i got negged bad for it so i wanted to apologize. Im deleting the post now.
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June 27th, 2003, 10:58 PM
#8
Propaganda,
how did you get on?.. was it a virus.. or was it some thing else? Or are you still fighting?
Please let us know.. we are all learning and appreciate living examples..
Cheers
"Consumer technology now exceeds the average persons ability to comprehend how to use it..give up hope of them being able to understand how it works." - Me http://www.cybercrypt.co.nr
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June 28th, 2003, 11:30 PM
#9
Senior Member
lol undertaker
Thanx for telling me that WIn2000 doesnt have msconfig, I didnt know.
She got it via E-mail, which enlightens my theory, IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO SENT THE MAIL OR WHY IT WAS SENT DONT OPEN IT.
UPDATE: Well I visited NAV's web site and did their online scan and it found 15 related viruses and 3 unkown. Think im in the clear now.............for now.
Big thanx
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June 29th, 2003, 12:13 AM
#10
Actually thereis no native msconfig for win 2k but it can be placed there or another program can be used to access the same menu. Link is here msconfig for win 2k
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