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    Riaa V's Kazzaa

    <what is the world coming too.....?
    Just browsing a site when i came across this
    Thought someone might wanna know
    What the RIAA is doing,

    Music firms target 12-year-old
    Brianna LaHara did not realise she was committing a crime
    A 12-year-old has been targeted by the music industry in its assault on song-swappers, after she downloaded children's rhymes and pop records.

    Brianna LaHara, of New York, was one of 261 people served with a lawsuit by the Recording Industry of America (RIAA).

    She has admitted swapping music online, and her mother has agreed to pay $2,000 (£1,257) to settle the case.

    The RIAA is suing hundreds of internet users in the US who it accuses of illegally swapping music online.

    It insists it is only going after those that download "substantial amounts" of copyrighted songs.

    Grandfather Durwood Pickle, 71, was shocked on Tuesday to discover a lawsuit had been filed against him, saying his grandchildren used his computer during visits to his Texas home.

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    Miss LaHara said she was amazed to learn she was being pursued after using the song-swap service Kazaa.

    She believed that because her mother had paid a $29.95 (£18.80) subscription to the web service she was not committing a crime.

    The 12-year-old was discovered to have more than 1,000 copyrighted songs on her hard drive, including Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey and children's song If You're Happy and You Know It.

    Each copyrighted song carries a maximum penalty of $150,000 (£94,260)

    "If this was something we were profiting from, that's one thing. But we were just listening and sometimes dancing to the music," her mother Sylvia Torres told the New York Daily News.

    Ms Torres had originally planned to fight the lawsuit but eventually settled the matter, while her daughter apologised.

    "I am sorry for what I have done. I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love," said Miss LaHara.

    'Usual suspects'

    The RIAA has filed lawsuits in federal courts across the US on behalf of major record companies Universal, BMG, EMI, Sony and Warner Brothers.

    Critics and music fans have accused the RIAA of being heavy-handed.

    "They're probably going to get the results they want, but I think it's kind of silly to go after individuals," said Jason Rich, a music fan from Watervliet, New York.

    "There are so many web sites out there, people don't know necessarily they're doing anything wrong."

    During a Senate judiciary hearing, Senator Dick Durbin questioned RIAA president Cary Sherman on the tactics being used.

    "Are you headed to junior high schools to round up the usual suspects?" Mr Durbin asked.

    Mr Sherman defended the stance, saying the RIAA was trying to spread the message that file-sharing is illegal.

    "Yes, there are going to be some kids caught in this, but you'd be surprised at how many adults are engaged in this activity," he said.

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    the world is turning into a bunch of bullshit
    Cause: I net send LOZER at school

    EFFECT: suspension

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    Corporate America is our new government it seems.

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    Riaa = Lame pop singer's last resort to get money.

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    nice equation Fatphantom!

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    update A day after the Recording Industry Association of America filed a slew of lawsuits against alleged illegal song swappers, it became the target of legal action over its own "amnesty" program.
    California resident Eric Parke, on behalf of the general public of the state, filed a suit Tuesday against the trade association because of its amnesty, or "Clean Slate," program, a provisional shield it introduced Monday that allows people to avoid legal action by stepping forward and forfeiting any illegally traded songs. The suit, filed in the Marin Superior Court of California, charges that the RIAA's program is a deceptive and fraudulent business practice.
    Well, at least the consumers aren't the only people being sued over this sh17.

    Read on here.

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    Let's face it. When artists make good music, people want to hear it. They will go to great lenghts and will not stop at anything to hear a good song, hell at least I know I won't. The RIAA is taking down random individuals for listening to the music that they hear every day on the radio, on MTV, VH1, etc. etc. Artists endorse you going out and listening to them. They like having their songs on the radio. The RIAA acknowledges this, yet they expect consumers to pay for many CDs when a readily available program that costs absolutely nothing on the internet is available for nothing on the internet to take the place of these CDs? The odds are in favor of the user, the opinion is in favor of the user, and the disbelief is definitely massed up on the RIAA side. Does the case of a person listening to an overplayed, broadcasted song on his or her personal computer need to end in a possibly million dollar lawsuit? I for one, think not.

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    I don't quite get it; the RIAA says sales are down because of profit lost to filesharing of mp3s, so to bolster sales they sue people for insane ammounts of money that they have to pay back. That being said, those people are going to be pissed and poor. How can suing a person into poverty stimulate sales, if you have no money, you can't buy cds! Seems like a viscous cycle to me that will only drive sales down further.
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    The argument that song swapping hurts sales in the amounts they say is BS. Sure it does hurt sales a little. But think about it, people are not buying CDs cos they are expensive and there are other forms of entertainment out there (would be too long to list here). also there are no alternatives when you look at mp3s. since it already out there people want to use mp3 to listen to music cos its much more portable than carrying Cds around i ur discman. an mp3 player takes up less space and does not skip. also it consumes less batt. with all this why dont they just come up with a better distribution of mp3s. that way their sales wont drop so much and also they need to face reality in that people are not gona pay ridiculous amounts of $ for CDs when there are other forms of entertainment they can do for much less.

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    Bullshit mixed with more bullshit = a ****load of problems between internet users vrs RIAA vrs The Government.. I have music on my computer, so sue me.. literally.

    But honestly, how the hell could you sue someone for this kind of thing, when international copywrite law's protect the warranty of it as well as the property distribution. They wouldn't enforce the law's as much as they have for something "against the law". What a total load of bullshit, from a group of desperate people.

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