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    can government force you to reveal the crypto key

    can they???

    if they can't crack it can they force...
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    They'll crack it.

    Think about it, They have the people from MIT, and all the other top universities working for them if they really need something. There is no stopping them.
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    And yes, they can force you to give it up or be arrested.. its through a subpeona (sp?)..
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    i don't believe they can crack everything ... why would they need subpeona's then??

    what if i say i don't remmember it...?
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    Under Patriot Act, they can site that you're a threat to national security or something along that line and you'll be arrested.. and they need a subpeona to get any information from you....
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    They can't crack everything. Even with alot of resources it's on chance, but eventually if enough time goes by they will crack it. I am talking about some hard core encryption not a password protected zip. That is also why they feel the need to introduce bills that establish key authorities. What they do is more like what hackers do: social engineer and attempt to get the key phrase. Chances are, if you are a target they will spy the phrase via hidden camera or keylog. It just depends, I have been involved in several prosecution cases...
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    Originally posted here by :-\
    And yes, they can force you to give it up or be arrested.. its through a subpeona (sp?)..
    You will be probed!

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    if the Gov. creates "key vaults" ... how are they planning to force ppl to give them keys... are they planning on cutting off the internet access to all the non - US crypto software ... like, road blocks on the Intenet... i'm really feel they are trying to fight something they can't win...

    what happens if i say that i forgot the key because it's too long ... or somthing like that... can they do anything or do they have to release me... i mean if they have to evidence they can't hold me ... we don't live in Beirut, do we?
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    The government can really do whatever they want. If you are encoding something that they want, need, or don't want you to have, they have a billion + dollars to get it from you. And thanks to 9/11, they can claim your resistance to terrorist activites and well, you will give it up.

    Is this just a hypothetical situation?
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