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    Microsoft's new best friends

    Microsoft's new best friends posted Today 07:53 AM
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    Microsoft's new best friends

    When the Department of Justice hauled Microsoft into court on antitrust charges in 1998, Silicon Valley was awash in schadenfreude.

    For years, Microsoft's Windows desktop monopoly had inspired equal doses of fear and distrust. It was time for payback, courtesy of Uncle Sam and your hard-earned taxpayer dollars at work. But all it took was a heretofore obscure patent to ignite a controversy to turn Microsoft into the people's choice.

    In August, a federal jury ordered the software maker to pay $521 million to Michael Doyle, the founder of Eolas Technologies, for infringing upon a patent he was granted while working as a researcher at the University of California. The patent describes how a browser opens external applications produced by software providers.

    Microsoft, which lost its first post-trial attempt to challenge the decision, plans to fight the verdict. In the meantime, the company is going to tweak its Internet Explorer Web browser to comply with the court decision.

    But as computer industry executives pondered the business ramifications of the Eolas verdict, they began to get a cold sweat over the prospect of millions of Web pages--as well as products of independent software developers--winding up being incompatible with Microsoft's Internet browser.

    Prominent among those giving voice to this worry is the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which earlier in the week urged U.S. Patent and Trademark Office boss James Rogan to invalidate the Eolas patent. Arguing that the patent "will cause cascades of incompatibility to ripple through the Web," W3C Director Tim Berners-Lee warned that Web browser developers would also be forced to pay to retrofit their own pages and software applications--even though they were not guilty of any infringement violation.

    "What's more, the inevitable fragmentation and retooling costs caused by the ability to enforce this patent, which we believe to be invalid, cannot even be remedied by individual parties choosing simply to pay licensing fees to the patent holder," he wrote. "If some parties are granted a license while others either don't or can't obtain one, we will still be left with impaired functionality of the Web."

    The Eolas case raises the prospect of millions of Web pages winding up being incompatible with Microsoft's Internet browser.
    Whether any relevant prior art was considered at the time the patent was first examined and granted--the W3C argues it was not--is a matter the courts will need to adjudicate. But there's a larger truth beyond the legal minutiae attending this controversy: The Web flourished precisely because of global standards. Berners-Lee may be guilty of rhetorical overkill, but he's correct about the central importance of Web interoperability to the future of the Internet. Force Microsoft to rejigger IE, and that bedrock assumption goes out the window.

    This is not mere nitpicking. In the inevitable scramble to conform to the demands of a post-Eolas world, my hunch is that things could get awfully messy. Admittedly, predicting the future is always a crapshoot, and the transition may go off without a hitch. But given the choice, I doubt you'd find many developers willing to take that risk. The W3C's decision to petition the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to reverse itself speaks volumes about where the computer industry is placing its bets.
    The W3C's decision to petition the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to reverse itself speaks volumes about where the computer industry is placing its bets.

    For Microsoft, finding friends it never knew existed must come as a welcome surprise--even if they may only be friends of convenience. But self-interest makes for strange bedfellows, and this is a case in which even hard-core Microsoft bashers will agree--at least in this once instance--that what's good for Bill Gates also is good for the rest of the computer industry.


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    Hi, ............................................... RANT
    For once I hope Gates wins:

    The patent describes how a browser opens external applications produced by software providers.
    Patents should not be allowed on vague concepts AT ALL ............we are just fighting this parasite concept over here in Europe.

    I would make it a mandatory $500,000 to file a Patent, when you would have to produce a viable working example, ALL your own work)...........and only that method/product could be patentable...........so if anyone had a better idea afterwards..........

    Also, you would have 1 year to go into commercial production and sell at least 20, 000 copies worldwide within the next 3 years, or your patent expires..........with no refund?

    I do not believe it is justifiable to patent concepts, merely to copyright products....otherwise all automobiles would be Ford....and so on (sorry Daimler Benz or whatever).............activity in restriction of trade, undemocratic and the lot?

    Maybe the law should be corrected to allow the second amendment to override the first?

    I actually have a patent like that:

    "The self-gratification of human beings by the respiratory ingestion of a mixture of oxygen, hydrogen nitrogen and carbon dioxide (with added pollutants)"

    So everyone in AO has to send me a greenie?...........and I do not mean an antipoint I mean that bit of paper with an effigy of Thomas Jefferson on the back

    If we allow concepts to be patented we are just taking a huge step backwards? And some people will have to stop breathing

    Well, just a few thoughts....................


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    For once I am hopeing microsoft wins...this would be a very bad thing for the web if they lose.
    Who is more trustworthy then all of the gurus or Buddha’s?

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    Yeah, everyone would have to apply for a license to operate your patented system.
    You could charge whatever you wanted.

    This situation with michael doyle could be compared to the court cases against bill clinton and michael jackson. People want publicity for themselves and exploit the powerful to shame them in the eyes of the public and make money for their efforts. Nothing but parasites, but at least these leeches are hooked onto a man-eating shark this time. I don't know who to root for, the leeches or the shark. Interesting.
    \"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic\" -Arthur C. Clark

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