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[Death_Knight]

now i'm in teritary education... learning basics of data-communication & networking, java & c++ programming, simple web language like javascript, html, dhtml, xhtml, css... i can't even assemble my own machine properly... what a shame...

i hope to work in IT field as a security personnal.... what certifications should i go for first?

some suggested CCNA, MCSE as the basics and take vendor specific like checkpoint CCSA/CCSE or isc2 SSCP

[\/IP3R]

You can get an associate degree in networking or you can go for bachlors in information system security. And at the same time you can get some certifications from SANS. It is little expensive but some of the best security experts gathers there.

[Dr_Evil]

it doesnt matter , go for that one that interest you most.




Dr_Evil

[jm459]

Originally posted here by Death_Knight
now i'm in teritary education... learning basics of data-communication & networking, java & c++ programming, simple web language like javascript, html, dhtml, xhtml, css... i can't even assemble my own machine properly... what a shame...

i hope to work in IT field as a security personnal.... what certifications should i go for first?

some suggested CCNA, MCSE as the basics and take vendor specific like checkpoint CCSA/CCSE or isc2 SSCP

I would suggest that you try to get Hardware Repair and Maintenance, and Computer Architecture, included in your list of learning basics.

[nihil]

Hi,

Dr_Evil has given you the best advice (generically) of all. Be what you want to be! I have seen people take a course "because there is money in that"................OK, you will not be near your full earnings potential for at least 8 (eight!!!) years..........then the growth rate will slow.

You need to "look over the horizon" so to speak?


If you are anything like me, you will have difficulty in learning anything you do not have a TRUE interest in, and struggle with it forever afterwards?

I would recommend learning PRINCIPLES before any specifics (vendor or otherwise), if only because they will last you your lifetime?

I wish you Good Luck

[Death_Knight]

can anyone tell me what security consist of network security admin? blah blah
because security is such a wide scope of job range. can someone explain the duties of a security personnal ?

i guess i will get started with learning hardware basics, CCNA

[nihil]

OK

I will just give a quick idea: "security" has two basic components..............the enemy within, and the enemy without.

External security is all about firewalls, traffic monitoring, blocking malware, catching a$$holes, and so on.

Internal security is about locking desktops, recovery, antivirus, allowing access to particular servers/applications, don't let THEM do THAT .........

Cheers

[Death_Knight]

Originally posted here by nihil
OK

I will just give a quick idea: "security" has two basic components..............the enemy within, and the enemy without.

External security is all about firewalls, traffic monitoring, blocking malware, catching a$$holes, and so on.

Internal security is about locking desktops, recovery, antivirus, allowing access to particular servers/applications, don't let THEM do THAT .........

Cheers

Hmm.. Sir may i know what do you specialise in ?

[spurious_inode]

If you are a code monkey, then another growing area of security is source code auditing....

When you really think about it, this is a _huge_ area, without software your computer is just a bunch of highly processed sand and metal. The problem is that there are a lot of talented software engineers out there who have not until very recently taken security into consideration when they develop a new application, or while maintaining an old one.

How many un-audited lines of code do you think there might me out there; millions, billions, more?....

Scary!

-- spurious

[nihil]

Hi Death_Knight,

Please accept my appologies for the delay in responding, I am afraid that my net connection has been down for the past 2 days, almost

Hmm.. Sir may i know what do you specialise in ?

I am afraid that I am rather old. I cut my first code back in 1970 (which I suspect might be slightly before you were born?).........I now work in consultancy and project management ( I will do almost anything for money ). I do have specific interests in security, as I have not worked in IT for a substantial part of my career.............I was an officer trainee when I did my first programming, as part of my college course.......

I would advise any young person against specialisation too soon..............learn principles first! I particularly believe that this is true of product specific skills?..........who wants COBOL programmers these days, or those with Sperry "Mapper" development skills............It would amuse me to find out how many people on this forum have heard of Sperry Mapper, Mobol (Mohawk Computer Corporation?) and so on.

Maybe I should recommend an "old fart's page" where we can go and die in peace

Good luck