November 20th, 2003, 08:08 PM
Cornell University and University of Virginia vs RedHat
The Fedora? Project (http://www.fedora.info
), a collaboration between Cornell University and University of Virginia , has developed an open-source digital repository management system. This project is result of a significant research investment beginning at Cornell in 1998. Release 1.0 was made available to the public as open source to the public in May 2003. Currently, release 1.1.1 of the Fedora? software is now available for download (http://www.fedora.info/release/1.1.1...d+Fedora+1.1.1
). At this date the software has been downloaded by hundreds of organizations and institutions across the world. There is substantial evidence for prior use of the name Fedora? by the Cornell and Virginia teams starting in 1998. This includes published papers, web sites, software releases, and public presentations.
In September, 2003, Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com
) announced the formation of the Fedora Project (http://fedora.redhat.com
). In November, 2003, Red Hat announced the first release of the Fedora Core. Related to these announcements, Red Hat has asserted trademark over the Fedora name (http://fedora.redhat.com/about/name.html
) and announced its intent to formalize this through a trademark application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Red Hat?s assertion of trademark includes restrictive guidelines on the use of the Fedora name.
Red Hat?s use of the Fedora? brand name and its assertion of ownership over that name are of considerable concern to the Cornell and Virginia Fedora? project team. Red Hat?s guidelines for use of the Fedora? brand place restrictions on use of a term for which the Cornell and Virginia team have over five years of prior use. This position seems inconsistent with Red Hat?s stance on open source and its prominence in the open source community. There are also costs due to confusion about the name. These include misunderstandings in the open source community about the identity of the products and resulting work for the Cornell and Virginia Fedora? support staff due to questions unrelated to their specific project.
The Cornell and Virginia teams have taken a number of steps to try to work with Red Hat regarding use of the name Fedora?. At this date, Red Hat has refused our request to withdraw its trademark applications and reverse its claims of usage restrictions on the name. Cornell University and the University of Virginia are now considering various legal options in response to Red Hat?s actions.
Well, it seems like RedHat will have to get a new new for their new "Home Linux" distrobution, or whatever they're calling it over there now. I agree with people that say they should have just kept "RedHat Linux" as the name and what not, this is just getting more and more into crazyness...
November 20th, 2003, 08:20 PM
Heh, first they were the only Linux distro on the shelves for 200 dollars, and now they are stealing names and ideas from others.... I told you all redhat was Microsoft in a Tux mask.
November 20th, 2003, 08:22 PM
lmao, so true... I mean what are they going to do? "RedHat now has all the expliots, virus and trojans that Windows has, now, you can have all the fun you had, back when you admined a Windows system!" ;-)
I think RedHat is going to slowly slip out of the picture, and make room for better Distro's like SuSE, Slackware, and Mandrake, which, are all original names! :-D!
November 20th, 2003, 08:33 PM
Yea, SuSE actually used to be S.U.S.E. It stood for:
Gesellschaft Software und Systementwicklung mbH.
Which is German for:
Company for Software and System Development Ltd.
That was September of 1992.
In march of 1993, S.U.S.E. started selling Linux on 60 floppy disks.
May 1996 was when YAST1 was included.
March 1997, S.U.S.E. opens a sales company in the US.
July 1998, S.U.S.E. Linux 5.2 is the best selling Linux distro to date.
December of 1998 S.U.S.E. Looses the dots, and S.U.S.E. becomes SuSE.
All of that was long before I even had a computer
Mandrake took the name from the Mandragora/Mandragore/Mandrake plant. It is said to have magical powers, and also can get you pretty high
Slackware seems to be a pun at the word slacker, because no one that likes to slack would ever run that thing. You need to do everything yourself lol.
November 20th, 2003, 09:53 PM
Stupid Redhat. They're getting on everyone's nerves these days, it seems.
Cornell's my school. :-D Just wanted to add that in, hehe. We will prevail!
November 20th, 2003, 10:30 PM
I quite like fedora.redhat - It's just a shame that the RH jerks are trying to trademark something that should be just left alone.
I'm sorry Gore, but I could not get on with Suse at all.
Maybe it's time to take a trip via Gentoo
This coporate bull really ticks me off.
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November 20th, 2003, 10:33 PM
Blah, I didn't like Fedora... it was like RedHat 9, worsened... I do like SuSE though, and Gentoo, and Slackware.
RedHat is getting a bit to corporate for me too... perhaps it is about time they stepped back and took a look at their actions in a broaded perspective.
November 20th, 2003, 10:38 PM
Gore you copied that from the Suse poster delivered with the CD-ROM's
Gentoo will rule the world within a few years, only tolerating Slackware and FreeBSD aside
Btw MicroBurn why do you like Gentoo ? And why did you stop using it ?
November 20th, 2003, 10:49 PM
What do you mean? I liked it becasue it was fun, and emerge was very nice, it was customizable and would make a great. But, X going slower than I expected, and I wanted to toy around with Windows 2003 for a bit so I installed Windows 2003. Mind you, I still like Gentoo.
As for Gentoo ruling the world in a few years, it needs a bit of time to grow, and most "avarage users" won't be able to install it, but eventually it will rise from the dead, into power! Mwahahahahahahahahaha.
November 20th, 2003, 10:57 PM
LMAO , Rise from the dead ... I like that ...
/me blames thread_killer for giving the gentoonitis-virus