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December 21st, 2003, 03:03 PM
#11
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Why are all of you people saying 24 pages is a lot ?
im reading a C++ programming book that is over 900 pages, i got some stuff about cryptografy, cross-site scripting, reverse enginering that are all about 50 to 100 pages...
anyway, tnx for the nice pdf MsM, I have been looking forward to this pdf and will enjoy reading it
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December 21st, 2003, 03:48 PM
#12
Hehehe... sorry. Bad Acadian french on my part.
And it's long given that it's a simple tutorial. It's not a book certainly but for a tutorial it is a bit lengthy. It kind of surprised me how long it was. I figured it would have been about 5-8 pages. What it does come down to is this: is the content good, regardless of the length?
I don't know if there ever could be a "Wargames in a Nutshell" although if there was it would be something like:
Chp 1: Intro to security
Chp 2: Intro to Networking/TCP/IP
Chp 3: Windows Specific Issues
Chp 4: Unix Specific Issues
Chp 5: Other OS specific Issues (Mac/Novell)
Chp 6: Network Security Devices: Firewalls, IDS, AVs
Chp 7: Setting Up the Wargames
Chp 8: Doing the Wargames
Chp 9: Auditing/Reports on the Wargames
Chp 10: Conclusions
Appendix: Resources, Samples of Reports, Samples of Known, older Exploits, Index
Hrmmm...
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December 21st, 2003, 04:47 PM
#13
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Originally posted here by MsMittens
Hehehe... sorry. Bad Acadian french on my part.
What it does come down to is this: is the content good, regardless of the length?
Just read the whole thing, and yes i do think it is good, you explain the steps to be taken pretty good, and it everything was very clear.
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December 21st, 2003, 06:58 PM
#14
MsMittens, you rock and you are a babe!
I'm going to share this with some of our faculty.
I will make sure you get proper credit.
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December 21st, 2003, 07:09 PM
#15
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Thanks MsMittens, great post.
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December 30th, 2003, 11:48 PM
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December 31st, 2003, 12:30 PM
#17
It's entirely up to what you use as to what kind of hardware. Obviously if you use Win2K/WinXP you'll need at least PII/600+. Linux/Unix can go with easier machines (P100s and earlier if need be and if you are happy without GUI).
As for connecting the equipment depends on the network devices you have. Routers/switches/hubs would have different locations. I won't tell you how to set it up because that is part of the learning process (figuring out what the best layout is). Your setup would be one good way (makes it easier on the IDS to pick up everything but creates a more "unsecure" setup). The firewall/router doesn't necessarily need 2 ethernet cards as you could conceivably use IP aliasing but it's far better and less confusing to have 2 cards (there are some OSes that will balk at single cards for firewall/router usage).
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December 31st, 2003, 03:01 PM
#18
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December 31st, 2003, 03:17 PM
#19
Actually, using the wireless should allow you to see the flaws in it. But remember to be careful with wireless as you don't want your "wargame" machines to be attacked by someone (and potentially opening up the connection to the internet).
AFAIK, Linux is just as happy with AMD as with Intel (I haven't used AMD machines before with it but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be supported).
As for connecting them into the firewall for exploit testing I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
Have fun!
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December 31st, 2003, 05:34 PM
#20
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Thanks ! I'll try to make some report and post them in the newbie section, even if my english is not that good.
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