January 12th, 2004, 07:18 PM
You can't, plain an simple.
I mean,when my computer's off,how could I get a virus?
You could have something else running in backgound that is connected to the internet, therefore, you could be at risk, however if your computer is off, refer to my first answer.
when I'm not connected to the internet,how could I get a virus that's being spread through the internet?
January 12th, 2004, 07:25 PM
Ali, I always thought u were the virus expert. Anyways, Run a disk defragmenter, and then a scandisk. Go over here to get some stuff that could help you:
The computer repairman you're visiting might be screwing with your pockets, seeing that you dont know much about computers. A rule of thumb to remember is: Always know whats wrong with your system before you send it to be repaired, or get ready to pay big bucks. Same goes for cars . I didnt read all the posts on this thread because i dont have the time rite now, but another solution is backing up all your stuff, and getting a new hard drive if you can afford it. It will prolly cost you less than what the tech is going to charge you. Just because you'r phone line is always hooked up to the wall, the chances of something happening to your comp when its shut off, is very slim. Take a look back at the tutorials you wrote and you'll find out that viruses do not attack your comp while its off.
January 12th, 2004, 11:40 PM
You mean besides P2P, IRC, E-Mail, Boards, IM clients, sites with nasty scripting, & (ect)? Take a look around you. There have been plenty of worms that spread with exploits. What makes them so successfull is users who think that if they stay away from attachments and URLs then they'll be safe from almost anything so its ok for them to skip patches & updates... or enable some really crapy configurations. LOL
Originally posted here by ali1
how could I get a virus that's being spread through the internet?
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January 13th, 2004, 12:35 AM
January 13th, 2004, 02:53 PM
I think I'm being terribly misunderstood.I didn't mean to ASK you how could I get a virus when my computer's off.I actually told you what I thought when that guy told me I can get a virus through my phone line even if I'm not connected to the internet.As for the applications that could connect to the internet,well,I don't think so.Because I think that if even one application connects to the internet,I would be connected to the internet and could surf the web and chat,etc.Other than that,I would notice a change in the balance of my account at my ISP's website.If you mean that the virus could connect to the internet using its own server or something like that,well,I'm not sure I can believe it.Because I live in a really remote town of Pakistan where the total number os ISPs that work here are 3,or 4.Maximum 5.And if I try connecting using any ISP other than these 5,I don't get connected.I hope you understand only what I mean this time!!!!
January 13th, 2004, 04:24 PM
OK Ali1, I think that I understand now
1. If your phone line is connected to your modem, and your PC is powered up............I mean booted up NOT just "connected to the electricity supply". It is possible that a virus or other malware that is running on your machine could connect to the internet and spread itself.
2. If it is a RAT (remote access trojan) then the bad guy could upload more bad stuff to your machine, or do most whatever he wants?
Remember that there is stuff out there that will silence the modem, so you won't hear it, so unless you have an external modem and notice the flashing lights, you will not be aware.
OK, your logs and stuff might tell you what has happened, but that is only AFTER it has happened, and they won't tell you WHAT happened?
3. This is how a lot of "dialers" work?......sit there monitoring activity, if you have been inactive for a while they call a very expensive connection, and you see it next month when you get the phone bill/ISP bill. So you had better believe it
4. I am not an expert in this area, but I would have thought that there is sufficient information in your browser and mailing system to identify and connect to your ISP? The only way to avoid this would be to recreate the link for each session and delete it afterwards, and I am sure that you do not do that
5. Just have a look in your browser and mail system setup utilities, and I think that you will see what I mean............you have told them about your ISP?.............and they don't need an ISP........if your telephone is connected they can talk "direct" so to speak?
You need a good firewall that requires you to verify OUTGOING connections.
I agree that you cannot be attacked down your phone line from the outside, if you are not connected to the net..............it is the OUTWARDS connections you need to worry about.