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January 6th, 2004, 08:29 AM
#21
If I may make a small point about your post, Tim...
My code is designed to disable right click, yes... (and left+right) - but there's a reason I also suggested setting frames.
You can set a no-size frame, and the site displays as normal... but the only code they get from View Source is the frame code :P
Anyhow, good post.
Regards,
SSJVegeta-Sei
Pierce me with steel, rend me with claw and fang; as I die, a legend is born for another generation to follow.
An\' it harm none, do as ye will. - Wiccan Rede
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January 6th, 2004, 08:54 AM
#22
Ah, I acturally spent like 40 minutes typing that up so I didn't see your post while writing it. ;p
That's a pretty good deterent for most people. Most people wouldn't think of how to get the page pointed to in the index.html and if you set the page you're protecting to ensure it reloads inside of frames can cause some problems for their attempts. (thumbs up)
Not everyone thinks about making a link and then right clicking it -> save target as either. I certainly didn't think of the link until someone was very intent on getting a small piece of code I wrote and showed me how they got it by making a hyperlink and save target as. (This code was some sort of crash IE code with a malformed tag, so view source wasn't an option there...and he had to use IE to get it and the cache was too cumbersome...)
My main target was at obfusecuation (sp?) of pages that I've come across at times. Mainly showing examples of what can be done to counter that. Writing a small tut on javascript has crossed my mind at times, but I want to include examples and that means I have to go code them myself. Sort of a "hack this javascript web page" challenge that I thought about before but made into tutorial form demonstrating ways to either recode it or find vulnerabilities in implementation...
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January 6th, 2004, 09:22 AM
#23
I thought he meant to hide it from the average Joe, not people like us LOL
"It is a shame that stupidity is not painful" - Anton LaVey
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January 6th, 2004, 11:28 AM
#24
like wat other said you can use javascript to disable the right click you can get it at www.javascript.com and if you wanted more secure you can use the php script but your server must be php enable so that you canuse it but i prefer using php script rather than disabling the right click coz there is other way to find or to look for your script
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January 6th, 2004, 03:48 PM
#25
Have you any idea how annoying it is to disable right-clicking? I use the right mouse button all the time in mozilla and it drives me insane when people use javascript because it stops me from opening links in new tabs, quick access to reload/bookmark a page etc. If I wanted to steal your images/HTML, I would do so and there's nothing you can do to stop me. Heck, if I wanted your HTML that badly I'd use lynx/links to grab the source instead.
BTW, PHP isn't much use for hiding your code for two reasons:
1. It outputs HTML which is then sent to the browser (obviously the PHP code is protected, but we're talking about HTML here)
2. It doesn't work on the client-side, so I can still right-click, View->Source or whatever to get at the HTML code
Easiest way to get around those frames is either to right-click within the frame and choose 'view source of this frame' (or whatever the option is) or view the code for the frameset and then load the frame individually (with Javascript disabled to prevent the frames re-appearing automatically).
You can certainly make it more difficult for the average user to access the code, but you can't stop anyone who's determined to get at it. It just wastes your time developing the site, damages your search engine rankings (especially if you use excessive javascript/frames for your content) and annoys the hell out of people like me who like to surf the web with the shortcuts provided by the right mouse button menus.
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January 6th, 2004, 04:06 PM
#26
Have you any idea how annoying it is to disable right-clicking? I use the right mouse button all the time in mozilla
Heh, it is nice to be able to open in new window. Also as someone previously said, just make a basic neandrithal (spelling) browser in VB. The have the page source written to a text box. In the end, why protect HTML? The important things to protect are your information and perhaps your images.
-Cheers-
PS: Happy New Year, late like.
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January 6th, 2004, 04:46 PM
#27
Junior Member
there is no 100% sure way of hiding your source code . but, I have some tricks, first, to disable the right click menu only in IE I have a smaller code <oncontextmenu="return false">. and secondly , open your code in notepad and insert around 900-1000 carriage returns above the <html> tag. and above that insert a confusing tag like <!-- Unable to decrypt $3aAb^. Source code not available--> or <!--Data Source not Found. File error #546--> or anything like that , u should have got the Idea what I mean to say.. but note that these tags have been inserted as comments otherwise they would appear on your page. this trick is also used by some softwares , I think. So with these tricks when the user will open the code he will get that message ( confusing tag) and below that, totally blank page, unless he notices the small scroller on the right side. and also note that every single carriage return weighs 2 bit or 2 byte I don't remember exactly..
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January 6th, 2004, 05:19 PM
#28
Any tricks you have for it are just that, tricks. All smoke and snake oil. Anyone who wants your source can get it easily with half a brain and 10 minutes on google.
"When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes." - Erasmus
"There is no programming language, no matter how structured, that will prevent programmers from writing bad programs." - L. Flon
"Mischief my ass, you are an unethical moron." - chsh
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January 6th, 2004, 05:29 PM
#29
man its getting worse and worse. XqZorXpoZ go to roll col if u want to post your intro read the AO FAQ it shouldn't be that hard. i think a automated PM shouls be sent to every new account giving details about the site and the site FAQ
go to ROll Col if you want to post your introductry note this is not the proper place for it . posting irrelevent data in between thread is intolerable. i suggest you delete and post in rollcol section
Hmm....been mentioned before:http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=252877
Oddly enough, it was put in the suggestions forum, which would be the proper place, instead of posting irrelevant data between threads (which I hear is intolerable) . Funny, I don't see a tag under your name that says AO police.
/ In best announcers voice:We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
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January 6th, 2004, 09:16 PM
#30
PWaring, it might be annoying, but I've run sites in the past where I REALLY DON'T want script kiddies running in, stealing all my images and using them somewhere else. People with the skills to take the stuff anyway probably A: won't find it worth their time and B: Are smart enough not to use proprietary images and such without asking first.
Besides, I have a really sweet Flash popup to get into the site, and people disable popups all the time, so turnabout is fair play :P (J/K)
Anyhow, in short, the script does exactly what it's designed to do, which is keep out your average moron. Which category I'm *sure* you're not a member of.
Regards,
SSJVegeta-Sei
Pierce me with steel, rend me with claw and fang; as I die, a legend is born for another generation to follow.
An\' it harm none, do as ye will. - Wiccan Rede
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