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May 30th, 2004, 11:00 PM
#11
Hello,
Whether it's a Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, or whatever, if it is turned on and online, then it is vulnerable.
As mentioned before, Mac's only make up a small percentage and as such they are less of a target. However as the other OS's are tightening up their security, I would imagine good ole Mac will see more assaults upon their OS. How will they react when the attacks begin. Do the have the experience that the other companies have acquired from years of patching? Some good questions. And of course with Mac and all other OS's, hopefully they'll kick some hacker butt!
cheers
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May 31st, 2004, 02:55 AM
#12
Interesting the way Apple handled this rather massive security loophole.
Apparently, it was reported to them in Feb, but they only released a patch on the 22nd May, due to all the comments flying around the net that explained how to exploit this in practice.
Exactly the way MS did (perhaps still does) work ??
This link http://secunia.com/advisories/11622/ explains the details, and I thought the that the original comment on the 17th May was rather telling:
'NOTE: The rating has been upgraded to "Extremely Critical" because the issues are very easy to exploit and a large number of working exploits are available.'
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May 31st, 2004, 03:10 AM
#13
Originally posted here by KorpDeath
What a joke. The reason there are no well known viruses/trojans/worms for MAC's is simple. No one would waste their time trying to infect a fraction of the machines connected to the Inet. What would it give you? Nothing.
BTW-I still have a powerMAC lying around here somewhere, I use it as my boat anchor or, when the boat's in drydock, I use it as a doorstop.
To Funny, Your probably not kidding either!!!!
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May 31st, 2004, 06:52 PM
#14
Sorry...couldnt resist,and everyone saying that Mac never had any virii bugged me for some strange reason lol..here's a link http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...e/viruses.html
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June 2nd, 2004, 01:59 PM
#15
Junior Member
That link is 5 years old :P
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June 2nd, 2004, 03:57 PM
#16
I know lol,just couldnt resist the fact that everyone was saying that there wasnt a mav virus ever!:P
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October 11th, 2004, 03:52 AM
#17
Junior Member
well, you guys are somewhat clueless when it comes to macs. the reason virii don't get through is that the email has no real hooks to the system. (outlook / exchange anyone?) to say it isn't done because there are not that many is REALLY ignorant. when the army kept having their (NT) servers hacked, they switched to macs and were secure from then on. if you understand the hacker mentality, then you would know once something gets 'secured' it raises the profile and better hackers go after it.
how many people here have ever hacked into a mac? thought not. go try- don't just talk about how easy it is- SHOW US THE PROOF. if you dont know what you're saying, it is better to say nothing than to make a certain fool of yourself.
If we had said \' The Earth is the center of
our universe -as far as we know\', we\'d have
been a lot less wrong. Still applies.
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October 11th, 2004, 06:53 AM
#18
cjmarch, I realize that this was your first post and you may be wondering why you got negged (Assigned negative antipoints.) by whoever did it. You got negged for bumping an extremely old thread that has already been discussed, in short, it's old news. If you're new to forums (and even if you're not) you will want to check out the FAQ. You'll find out answers to everything you need to know there! Good luck and welcome to Antionline!
Regards,
Xierox
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October 11th, 2004, 07:28 AM
#19
it is better to say nothing than to make a certain fool of yourself.
Right on the money! Bet you feel like a fool bringin' up this old of a thread, guess you shoulda said nothing?
Anyhoo...
http://secunia.com/advisories/12690/
http://secunia.com/advisories/12575/
http://secunia.com/advisories/12249/
http://secunia.com/advisories/11689/
http://secunia.com/advisories/11622/
http://secunia.com/advisories/11539/
http://secunia.com/advisories/11012/ <-- unpatched!
http://secunia.com/advisories/10959/
http://secunia.com/advisories/10723/
http://secunia.com/advisories/10474/
http://secunia.com/advisories/9535/
http://secunia.com/advisories/8571/
http://secunia.com/advisories/8533/
http://www.securemac.com (I thought macs were secure? How do they stay in buisness!?)
http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/05...fari/index.php <-- Safari
well, you guys are somewhat clueless when it comes to macs.
You'll find as you stick around here that the most "secure" people here can secure any os. They will look for 2 things immediately, regardless of what OS they are on.
1. Unnecessary services
2. Updates
Considering that nearly every vulnerability on any OS is reported before the 0-day, it's a safe bet that any patched box is nearly untouchable.
how many people here have ever hacked into a mac? thought not. go try- don't just talk about how easy it is- SHOW US THE PROOF.
The hard part is finding one!
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October 12th, 2004, 01:03 AM
#20
Junior Member
ummm...yeah and you have succesfully used how many of those attacks?
i may be new to the forum but i have hardened solaris before and used trusted. my comment about macs did not mean to imply that a virus cant be written, just that no one here has the skillz to hack a mac. i don't have a mac bias- but if you are talking about why they don't get virii- i just told you. ok, i did not mention the permissions system that controls acces in unix, but i thought that was a given.
once again....who here has hacked a mac. ummm- who knows the difference between a virus and a vulnerability? raise your hand. nobody?
If we had said \' The Earth is the center of
our universe -as far as we know\', we\'d have
been a lot less wrong. Still applies.
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