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Thread: Risk Assessment: are you anonymous?

  1. #11
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    Originally posted here by Alcatraz
    AntiOnline is a site for newbs and script kiddies, whether you people like it or not. It's easy for them to find and makes them think they're cool to be part of a community. And that tutorial was just long enough for their short attention span. As for TheSpecialist, who cares what your old account was, and why did you get APs for that post?
    Which one are you, then?

    Any resource on the web - and knowledge, by definition - can be put to malicious use. Whether it is available to the public or not, the risk still exists, and without AO or SecurityFocus [just some examples] the cyberworld would be chaotic.

    Script kiddies do not get their questions answered. Simply by browsing the forum they cannot find information that is useful for them [if the level of quality of stuff on AO is kept as it is intended to be]. Those issues that may be used by a script kiddie are theoretical, and so he would need to get into a deeper research to really understand some of the more technical stuff.

    I am aware that script kiddies lurk about this forum. I also know that by having AO maintain a level of quality regarding the stuff that's being posted, they will be fruitless in their ventures around here.

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    Re: Risk Assessment: are you anonymous?

    Originally posted here by rwarren
    Now this is not to condone hacking in any way, as you will soon find out. This is meant to scare you. .

    This is for all you noobs and script kiddies out there.
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    Now I’m not saying that I am an advanced hacker, in fact I don’t even consider myself a hacker or let alone advanced. I have been in this world long enough to know that every action has a reaction. I also know that knowing to much or to little can get you into trouble.

    Welcome to the Internet: WORNING you are being logged.


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    Plz let me know what you think

    What I think is......................... What I think is that you should be aware that you are not, for the most part dealing with ppl. as "noob" as you think.

    You know what else I think......... It's WARNING not "WORNING". (if you search my posts you will find many grammar errors) I suggest feeling out AO, or any other site for that matter, before you make an assesment, and blindly post.

    G/L

    remember the key word is "Think".

    Get some good religion from Bad Religion.

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    Originally posted here by Alcatraz
    AntiOnline is a site for newbs and script kiddies, whether you people like it or not. It's easy for them to find and makes them think they're cool to be part of a community.

    I hate to say it, but I think we all need to accept this fact.
    Get some good religion from Bad Religion.

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    I guess my tutorial is similiar to this one
    Space For Rent.. =]

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    Well AO to be honest for a while was pretty damn good in terms of the knowledge being passed around. Lately thats changed but hey whatever.

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    Ennis: So we should allow the standards to deteriorate because it seem like a trend? There are quite a few here that do know something about security..... Are they great hackers.... nope.... Do they need to be? Nope. They need to be able to understand the issues and know how they can be mitigated. They need to be able to recognize "unusual activity" and investigate it, (those log "thingies" are really important here). If mitigating them means closing your $1M/day ecommerce server for two days while a patch becomes available it may well be less costly than providing the SSN's and credit card info of all your customers to the world...

    There's quite a bit of knowledge going around here.... It's the quality of the questions that deteriorated.......
    Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
    \"A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.\" - Thucydides

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    Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
    Ennis: So we should allow the standards to deteriorate because it seem like a trend? There are quite a few here that do know something about security..... Are they great hackers.... nope.... Do they need to be? Nope. They need to be able to understand the issues and know how they can be mitigated. They need to be able to recognize "unusual activity" and investigate it, (those log "thingies" are really important here). If mitigating them means closing your $1M/day ecommerce server for two days while a patch becomes available it may well be less costly than providing the SSN's and credit card info of all your customers to the world...

    There's quite a bit of knowledge going around here.... It's the quality of the questions that deteriorated.......
    TS, in my opinion, it's not just the quality of the questions that's deteriorated. That's an end result to the intelligence of the person asking the question. Unfortunately these days, especially in the US, I'm seeing more and more "less intelligent" people. Teenagers and those up to my age at 28 nowhere even sounding intelligent on any level. Try having a conversation with some of these people. I work with people who literally get lost if you mention any word more than two syllables and don't talk more than 10 seconds because if it's not about gossip or something else that's not valuable, they either stopped listening or they have no concept of what you're talking about.

    That's where I'm seeing things go. TV doesn't help, nobody reads anymore, nobody does anything self-improvement related, it's just one pathetic cesspool of society where upcoming adults and even adults aren't wanting to do anything mentally stimulating. Point and click environment, click the remote and watch 99 channels of nothing ("reality" shows), the list goes on and on...

    Such a sad state of affairs and I know a lot will disagree with me, but you know what, it doesn't matter because I know what I don't do. I don't watch TV at all (no joke), I don't sit on the gossip fence lines at work (some people's lives revolve around the latest crap of he said-she said), and I don't mistreat people by thinking I'm better than them.

    I do what I can to improve my own education and those around me who want the same thing. I surround myself with intelligent people, not high school dropout-like floozies or those with bad attitudes. Everyone can learn from everyone else. And I'm learning what not to do.

    As for knowledge, let's just say this: "I know enough to know I don't know everything". That sums it up, hehe. Always let people guess how much you really know instead of flaunting any miniscule piece of knowledge you might have which may be wrong to begin with. And share...life should be open source, hehe...
    We the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much with so little for so long that we are now qualified to do just about anything with almost nothing.

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    Vorlin: Amen Brother.....

    High praise indeed from an athiest......
    Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
    \"A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.\" - Thucydides

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