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    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application after the fact

    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application if your on a Windows Platform and you didn't disable the services Windows leaves open, before your computer went online to the Internet. Your computer already has file and print sharing open and anyone in the world can view what is on your hard drive, add whatever they desire to add, including Backdoors and Trojan Horses. And don't forget that Trojan Horses disable your firewall, whether hardware or software and any anti-virus
    application on your computer. Don't forget the malicious hackers use victims computers, running Virtual Private Networks and Dial-Up Servers with Pre-paid
    Phone Cards.

    trackit

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    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application after the fact

    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application if your on a Windows Platform and you didn't disable the services Windows leaves open, before your computer went online to the Internet. Your computer already has file and print sharing open and anyone in the world can view what is on your hard drive, add whatever they desire to add, including Backdoors and Trojan Horses. And don't forget that Trojan Horses disable your firewall, whether hardware or software and any anti-virus
    application on your computer. Don't forget the malicious hackers use victims computers, running Virtual Private Networks and Dial-Up Servers with Pre-paid
    Phone Cards.

    trackit

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    No trojan is going to disable my hardware firewall, And firewalls are good things ....argggh
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    No trojan is going to disable my hardware firewall, And firewalls are good things ....argggh
    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
    The international ban against torturing prisoners of war does not necessarily apply to suspects detained in America\'s war on terror, Attorney General John Ashcroft told a Senate oversight committee
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    Re: No need for a firewall or anti-virus application after the fact

    Originally posted here by trackit
    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application if your on a Windows Platform and you didn't disable the services Windows leaves open, before your computer went online to the Internet. Your computer already has file and print sharing open and anyone in the world can view what is on your hard drive, add whatever they desire to add, including Backdoors and Trojan Horses. And don't forget that Trojan Horses disable your firewall, whether hardware or software and any anti-virus
    application on your computer. Don't forget the malicious hackers use victims computers, running Virtual Private Networks and Dial-Up Servers with Pre-paid
    Phone Cards.

    trackit

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    Re: No need for a firewall or anti-virus application after the fact

    Originally posted here by trackit
    No need for a firewall or anti-virus application if your on a Windows Platform and you didn't disable the services Windows leaves open, before your computer went online to the Internet. Your computer already has file and print sharing open and anyone in the world can view what is on your hard drive, add whatever they desire to add, including Backdoors and Trojan Horses. And don't forget that Trojan Horses disable your firewall, whether hardware or software and any anti-virus
    application on your computer. Don't forget the malicious hackers use victims computers, running Virtual Private Networks and Dial-Up Servers with Pre-paid
    Phone Cards.

    trackit

    Trackit:

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    I think what he is trying to say is that taking a computer that has already been attached to the Internet for a time with no security whatsoever and then loading it up with firewall/AV etc. is a bit of a waste of time since the potential compromises may render the defenses useless.

    Of course, he said it in a "special" way...... But that's the message I got from it..... and he's absolutely correct. You need to start from a know point, secure it and then connect it to the internet - not the other way round.......

    Care to comment Trackit?
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    I think what he is trying to say is that taking a computer that has already been attached to the Internet for a time with no security whatsoever and then loading it up with firewall/AV etc. is a bit of a waste of time since the potential compromises may render the defenses useless.

    Of course, he said it in a "special" way...... But that's the message I got from it..... and he's absolutely correct. You need to start from a know point, secure it and then connect it to the internet - not the other way round.......

    Care to comment Trackit?
    Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
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    Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
    I think what he is trying to say is that taking a computer that has already been attached to the Internet for a time with no security whatsoever and then loading it up with firewall/AV etc. is a bit of a waste of time since the potential compromises may render the defenses useless.


    Well Tiger what I meant by the POOP, was that his (or her) post would have been much better phrased as an answer to a question, not the beginning of a thread, in it's stated form.

    IMHO..................


    Edit- Beyond that I read his 4 posts tonight, makes my poop smell like friggin Chanel number 2000! Anyone who recommends "Reformat" to ppl. is not helping.

    Some call it F Disk, I call it F You.

    Edit- To try and live up to tigers spelling bee!
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    Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
    I think what he is trying to say is that taking a computer that has already been attached to the Internet for a time with no security whatsoever and then loading it up with firewall/AV etc. is a bit of a waste of time since the potential compromises may render the defenses useless.


    Well Tiger what I meant by the POOP, was that his (or her) post would have been much better phrased as an answer to a question, not the beginning of a thread, in it's stated form.

    IMHO..................


    Edit- Beyond that I read his 4 posts tonight, makes my poop smell like friggin Chanel number 2000! Anyone who recommends "Reformat" to ppl. is not helping.

    Some call it F Disk, I call it F You.

    Edit- To try and live up to tigers spelling bee!
    Get some good religion from Bad Religion.

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