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    EXACTLY!
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    Hey Hey,

    TechTV is a great resourse for those without much computer background, and occasionally for those of us that know what we are doing. Would I say they've gone over the line? Never. Could they have presented this in a better context... definately. The sad truth is, that anyone who is going to use this maliciously already knows about it. Netbus is one of the most common names in the trojan world. However it's also one of the oldest, Almost all AV software will pick up this program and remove it for you, some will even prevent you from running it in the first place. They could have used much more modern software, something that may be more of a challenge to clean or remove. While they presented this in a "dark and evil" way, I think that's more of an attention grabber than anything. We all watch the news, but none of us care about furry kittens, or someone who donated to the local homeless shelter. We watch for the deaths, the accidents, the murders, ... the juicy stuff. I'm going to say that at one point or another the majority of the members on this site have followed a police car, ambulance or fire truck just to see what happened. By our very nature we are intrigued by what is "dark and evil"... Everyone has a dark side, it's just whether or not they are in control, or even care. By presenting it in this matter, more people will see this information, and more people will be aware that it is possible. While to you it seems dangerous and improper. To me it seems informative. You claim this isn't about censorship, it's about media responsibility. You are completely wrong. If you have a problem with this you are talking about censorship, plain and simple. The media is providing information, who cares how they provide it. That article looked dangerous and scary to those with no knowledge of the topic, however what it just did is tell them that this is possible and people shouldn't do this. What did I learn: Not to disable my AV, especially when people send me software... not to trust people when they try to send me small executable files... that if odd things start happening I could have an infection... and the list goes on. If you don't like it, don't pay attention. As much as I feel their programming is mainly a joke for those with actual IT knowledge, they always find a way to get peoples interest. Once again they have succeeded and I say kudos to them for informing the public.

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    Hey Hey,

    TechTV is a great resourse for those without much computer background, and occasionally for those of us that know what we are doing. Would I say they've gone over the line? Never. Could they have presented this in a better context... definately. The sad truth is, that anyone who is going to use this maliciously already knows about it. Netbus is one of the most common names in the trojan world. However it's also one of the oldest, Almost all AV software will pick up this program and remove it for you, some will even prevent you from running it in the first place. They could have used much more modern software, something that may be more of a challenge to clean or remove. While they presented this in a "dark and evil" way, I think that's more of an attention grabber than anything. We all watch the news, but none of us care about furry kittens, or someone who donated to the local homeless shelter. We watch for the deaths, the accidents, the murders, ... the juicy stuff. I'm going to say that at one point or another the majority of the members on this site have followed a police car, ambulance or fire truck just to see what happened. By our very nature we are intrigued by what is "dark and evil"... Everyone has a dark side, it's just whether or not they are in control, or even care. By presenting it in this matter, more people will see this information, and more people will be aware that it is possible. While to you it seems dangerous and improper. To me it seems informative. You claim this isn't about censorship, it's about media responsibility. You are completely wrong. If you have a problem with this you are talking about censorship, plain and simple. The media is providing information, who cares how they provide it. That article looked dangerous and scary to those with no knowledge of the topic, however what it just did is tell them that this is possible and people shouldn't do this. What did I learn: Not to disable my AV, especially when people send me software... not to trust people when they try to send me small executable files... that if odd things start happening I could have an infection... and the list goes on. If you don't like it, don't pay attention. As much as I feel their programming is mainly a joke for those with actual IT knowledge, they always find a way to get peoples interest. Once again they have succeeded and I say kudos to them for informing the public.

    Peace,
    HT

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    Tv, resposible reporting, ever watch fox hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahaha, I think there are a lot more irresponsible reporters out there than tech tv talking about trojans. ~50% of americans believing that saddam and osama are in league and that there were wmd is far more disgusting/tragic/sad than a story on trojans.
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    Tv, resposible reporting, ever watch fox hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahaha, I think there are a lot more irresponsible reporters out there than tech tv talking about trojans. ~50% of americans believing that saddam and osama are in league and that there were wmd is far more disgusting/tragic/sad than a story on trojans.
    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
    The international ban against torturing prisoners of war does not necessarily apply to suspects detained in America\'s war on terror, Attorney General John Ashcroft told a Senate oversight committee
    -- true colors revealed, a brown shirt and jackboots

  7. #17
    In response to HTRegz:

    While to you it seems dangerous and improper. To me it seems informative.
    I'm glad that you enjoyed it!

    As I originately stated, this info is widely available on the internet, no secret there but, for a new/media agency, they do have awith their reporting!

    Do I believe in censorship, NO! Do I believe in media responsibility? Yes! Do I stand by my assertions? 100% So don't you or anyone else stick words in my mouth! Period!

    Later!

  8. #18
    In response to HTRegz:

    While to you it seems dangerous and improper. To me it seems informative.
    I'm glad that you enjoyed it!

    As I originately stated, this info is widely available on the internet, no secret there but, for a new/media agency, they do have awith their reporting!

    Do I believe in censorship, NO! Do I believe in media responsibility? Yes! Do I stand by my assertions? 100% So don't you or anyone else stick words in my mouth! Period!

    Later!

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    I just checked out the site. If anything, they are making the public more aware by playing the part of the devils advocate. There isn't really much useful information in terms of exactly how to do it (hack with NetBus ); rather they are removing the veil of ignorance. Its about the same as spending an evening with google and searching for "hacking toolz".

    I believe that the ignorantia is the first group to cry foul. The very fact that they do not know, understand, or might even want to learn about what you can do with IT, is reason for them to fear IT. Yet at the same time they blindingly consume all kinds of software. They click on
    e-mails, download software from sites they have no clue about, browse porn and get their browser jacked, etc.etc.

    So you either accept the fact that the net is not "safe" and get up to speed and learn what is going on or get WebTV. Or take up bowling...censorship is not the solution, knowledge is by far the better defense or weapon, however one wants to look at it.
    It is so funny, everyone is just 'dying' to get connected, and when they "get connected", they wonder what went wrong!

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    I just checked out the site. If anything, they are making the public more aware by playing the part of the devils advocate. There isn't really much useful information in terms of exactly how to do it (hack with NetBus ); rather they are removing the veil of ignorance. Its about the same as spending an evening with google and searching for "hacking toolz".

    I believe that the ignorantia is the first group to cry foul. The very fact that they do not know, understand, or might even want to learn about what you can do with IT, is reason for them to fear IT. Yet at the same time they blindingly consume all kinds of software. They click on
    e-mails, download software from sites they have no clue about, browse porn and get their browser jacked, etc.etc.

    So you either accept the fact that the net is not "safe" and get up to speed and learn what is going on or get WebTV. Or take up bowling...censorship is not the solution, knowledge is by far the better defense or weapon, however one wants to look at it.
    It is so funny, everyone is just 'dying' to get connected, and when they "get connected", they wonder what went wrong!

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