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June 2nd, 2004, 09:48 PM
#31
thehorse13, Ok. I'm jealous (you guys aren't hiring are you?).
Right. I'll remember that from now on. Carnivore is FBI's baby and Echelon is NSA (that we know of --- we have to remember that NSA is the organization that no one knows exists).
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June 2nd, 2004, 09:48 PM
#32
Yeah, Eschelon is indeed global.
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June 2nd, 2004, 09:56 PM
#33
Just as an aside, one of the sites listed on Echelon Watch was Epic. And they have a nice (although some seem outdated) list of potential tools to protect yourself (somewhat?) against Echelon and other invasions of privacy: http://www.epic.org/privacy/tools.html
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June 2nd, 2004, 09:59 PM
#34
They have "existed" for decades, it was MI5 that was secret, or was that MI6? I forget. Anyway they are recruiting as always.
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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June 2nd, 2004, 10:01 PM
#35
Ya. But I'm a Canadian. I doubt they'd be hiring me.. 
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June 2nd, 2004, 10:30 PM
#36
Yeah, Eschelon is indeed global.
sorry but you spelled it 3 times wrong i believe, it's Echelon....btw: i had a screen name 4 motnhs ago "Echelon Cipher" - had to say it 
and i believe Echelon spies on IM messages, e-maisl, phone convos etc....i dont think it's active now though, who knows what kind of programs the government has now up and running....btw: the www.aimencrypt.com certificate, how can they desipher it when every message sent no matter how long or short is looks like this
Friend SN (11:35:13 PM): 0€ **H*÷_€0€1°0__
LSysAdmn (11:35:36 PM): 0€ **H*÷ €0€1°0_
doesnt there have to be a certain sign or code be assigned to every letter and number for it to be able to be encrypted ?
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June 2nd, 2004, 10:40 PM
#37
Heh heh, and here I was thinking everyone else was spelling it wrong.
Didn't France try to sue us over the Esch...Ech...spy thingie?
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June 2nd, 2004, 11:01 PM
#38
They have "existed" for decades, it was MI5 that was secret, or was that MI6? I forget. Anyway they are recruiting as always.
I would ASSUME it was MI6, as it was the external agency, the double agents that traveled to Russia and such belonged to it, it's the equal of the U.S.'s CIA, MI5 was the internal agency, sort of like the FBI, responsible for picking out double agents in MI6 and dealing the the IRA and PIRA.
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June 3rd, 2004, 01:05 AM
#39
Originally posted here by thehorse13
We ride an OC48 pipe. WOOHOO!!!
You're holding that job for me still right???????
Second:
Why has no one even said a thing about OC-256 lines? Over 13 GBs a second. I learned about them a few semesters ago.
And what speed does a T-6 Have? I doubt it would be two T3s, because 3 T-1s are far from even One T3. If I am calculating correctly, which I'm probably not, a T-6 should be close to 500 or so MBs a second. Maybe more?
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June 5th, 2004, 12:45 PM
#40
Junior Member
Re: Trnsltr
Originally posted here by Minu
Is it true that the NSA's crypto department has one massive uber-computer that can decrypt any public encryption software in minutes?
Not unless they have made a breakthrough in factoring.
Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.
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