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June 8th, 2004, 06:54 PM
#21
Embro - Nice example it is very clear to me now
- Adiz
Ultimately everyone will have their own opinion--this is mine.
OOOUUUUCH! <throaty sound> That ain\'t cool baby.</throaty sound> (right before this I had made fun of the \'girl\' and she took it out on my balls... Luckily later on they were \"taken care of.\"
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June 8th, 2004, 07:30 PM
#22
Careful... show a bit of respect to the company that made personal computing as large as it is today.
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June 8th, 2004, 07:46 PM
#23
In fact, you can do it under Windows. However, due to graphic interface constraints (that occurs on *nix too) you cant do it in the exact way at desktop. But you can run programs as other uids (runas) or can even break or change (wtih appropriate authority) security structure with impersonalization. There is an API group to do that.
Unix users are so adicted to su and sudo that think that all O.S. should use the same concept with the same implementation (please dont take this as offense)
For instance, on AS/400 you can see that implementation as "adopt authority".
Meu sÃtio
FORMAT C: Yes ...Yes??? ...Nooooo!!! ^C ^C ^C ^C ^C
If I die before I sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to encrypt. If I die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul to brake.
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June 8th, 2004, 07:52 PM
#24
But you can run programs as other uids (runas) or can even break or change (wtih appropriate authority) security structure with impersonalization. There is an API group to do that.
100% correct.
But keep in mind that windows XP and 2k have the ability to allow multiple logins through X at once. It's a "Switch User" for the entire enviroment while keeping both users running at the same time.
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June 8th, 2004, 08:06 PM
#25
Careful... show a bit of respect to the company that made personal computing as large as it is today.
Pooh, I thought you were pissed off with MS? Or is that limited to being pissed off with their marketing/law department? (Not an accusation, just wondering)
Cheers,
cgkanchi
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June 8th, 2004, 08:19 PM
#26
Pooh, I thought you were pissed off with MS? Or is that limited to being pissed off with their marketing/law department? (Not an accusation, just wondering)
It's hard to explain, but I will try. I admire for Microsoft the coders and company (bill included) because let's admit it, they have a GUI interface and coding ability (anyything ever coded in mankind is buggy, don't hold it agaist them) that every other OS is striving for. I'm a huge fan of Microsoft's management and marketing Pre-Bill stepping down from management. This entire team, for this generation of MS, launched personal computing onto a new level while still being in the buisness to make money.
However, I hate Microsoft's current management (remember, Bill stepped down) for their descisions. Since Bill stepped down Microsoft has made a lot of bad choices I feel, from slapping Linux users in the face with the SCO payments, to marketing ME (that was NOT Bill's descision! He was pissed when he found out they released it). Thus I have a strong dislike for their marketing and management department (CEO included) for the post-Bill timeframe.
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June 8th, 2004, 08:21 PM
#27
I don't mind MS i learned on them still use it all the time. Infact I am using windows 2000 boot right now.
- Adiz
Ultimately everyone will have their own opinion--this is mine.
OOOUUUUCH! <throaty sound> That ain\'t cool baby.</throaty sound> (right before this I had made fun of the \'girl\' and she took it out on my balls... Luckily later on they were \"taken care of.\"
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June 8th, 2004, 08:39 PM
#28
I find most people that gripe against microsoft are either
1. Jealous of the ammount of money Billy made/makes
2. Skiddies/newbies who want to try and sound good by slagging Microsoft
3. Avid *nix users who really do dislike windows.
#2 is the most common IMHO
Although i do agree with Pooh's comments whole heartedly!
My main grip with MS is that you cant seem to go to a store now-a-days and buy a computer without some version of Windows on it.
Even if you dont agree with the license after you bought it and dont want to install/use windows, although they say you can take it back [windows], you have a pethetically small chance of actually getting a refund!!
But hey, thats life!
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June 8th, 2004, 09:43 PM
#29
I like the new mandrake 10 it is far superior. However thanks to pooh I have figured out logging back and forth with the 'su' command. I am liking linux.
- Adiz
Ultimately everyone will have their own opinion--this is mine.
OOOUUUUCH! <throaty sound> That ain\'t cool baby.</throaty sound> (right before this I had made fun of the \'girl\' and she took it out on my balls... Luckily later on they were \"taken care of.\"
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June 9th, 2004, 03:27 AM
#30
Running RH 9 with X running, I cannot login to root, but I can su to root. If I change to crtl -alt-F2 I can login to root. I find it easier just to su - than it is to change to another tty, although that has come in handy when my desktop froze on me. I can crt-alt-F1, kill the hung process and crt-alt-F7 back to my gui.
$ root
bash: root: command not found
$ login root
Password:
Login incorrect
If you do ctrl-alt-F1 - F6 and try it "login root" does not work but "root" does
localhost login: root
Password:
Last login: Tues Jun 8 22:10:56 on tty2
login: login root
Password:
Login incorrect
If you want to get back to the gui then use ctrl -alt -F7. So we are back to what pooh said and how a user can login multiple times.
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