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    Some Movie Pirates Are Terrorists, Valenti Claims

    People who counterfeit movies are not only pirates, some are actually terrorists, MPAA chief Jack Valenti charged Wednesday. Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday, Valenti cited an Interpol report, which, he said, concluded that "there is a significant link between counterfeiting and terrorism in locations where there are entrenched terrorist groups." According to the report, Valenti said, terrorists have turned to piracy as the preferred way to raise funds, since it is less risky than drug smuggling and money laundering. "It stands to reason that if it's low-risk, high-return and if you get caught it's a slap on the wrist, then criminals are going to do it," Valenti said. However, Daily Variety pointed out today (Thursday) that the Interpol report mentions mostly counterfeit household items like shampoos and perfume, and that the only reference to movies was contained in a section about a single individual who reportedly distributed Hezbollah propaganda films as part of his supply of pirated music and video games.


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    Just the tip of the iceberg

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    This pisses me off. I'm gonna go out right now and fly a 747
    into Valenti's office.
    I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.

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    Not only pirates but artists are terrorists too , this is even more strange and disturbing

    May 25, 2004

    Feds Unable to Distinguish Art from Bioterrorism
    Grieving Artist Denied Access to Deceased Wife's Body


    Steve Kurtz was already suffering from one tragedy when he called 911
    early in the morning to tell them his wife had suffered a cardiac arrest
    and died in her sleep. The police arrived and, cranked up on the rhetoric
    of the "War on Terror," decided Kurtz's art supplies were actually
    bioterrorism weapons.

    Thus began an Orwellian stream of events in which FBI agents abducted
    Kurtz without charges, sealed off his entire block, and confiscated his
    computers, manuscripts, art supplies... and even his wife's body.

    Like the case of Brandon Mayfield, the Muslim lawyer from Portland
    imprisoned for two weeks on the flimsiest of false evidence, Kurtz's case
    amply demonstrates the dangers posed by the USA PATRIOT Act coupled with
    government-nurtured terrorism hysteria.

    Kurtz's case is ongoing, and, on top of everything else, Kurtz is facing a
    mountain of legal fees. Donations to his legal defense can be made at


    Steve Kurtz is Associate Professor in the Department of Art at the State
    University of New York's University at Buffalo, and a member of the
    internationally-acclaimed Critical Art Ensemble.

    Kurtz's wife, Hope Kurtz, died in her sleep of cardiac arrest in the early
    morning hours of May 11. Police arrived, became suspicious of Kurtz's art
    supplies and called the FBI.

    Within hours, FBI agents had "detained" Kurtz as a suspected bioterrorist
    and cordoned off the entire block around his house. (Kurtz walked away the
    next day on the advice of a lawyer, his "detention" having proved to be
    illegal.) Over the next few days, dozens of agents in hazmat suits, from a
    number of law enforcement agencies, sifted through Kurtz's work, analyzing
    it on-site and impounding computers, manuscripts, books, equipment, and
    even his wife's body for further analysis. Meanwhile, the Buffalo Health
    Department condemned his house as a health risk.

    Kurtz, a member of the Critical Art Ensemble, makes art which addresses
    the politics of biotechnology. "Free Range Grains," CAE's latest project,
    included a mobile DNA extraction laboratory for testing food products for
    possible transgenic contamination. It was this equipment which triggered
    the Kafkaesque chain of events.

    FBI field and laboratory tests have shown that Kurtz's equipment was not
    used for any illegal purpose. In fact, it is not even _possible_ to use
    this equipment for the production or weaponization of dangerous germs.
    Furthermore, any person in the US may legally obtain and possess such

    "Today, there is no legal way to stop huge corporations from putting
    genetically altered material in our food," said Defense Fund spokeswoman
    Carla Mendes. "Yet owning the equipment required to test for the presence
    of 'Frankenfood' will get you accused of 'terrorism.' You can be illegally
    detained by shadowy government agents, lose access to your home, work, and
    belongings, and find that your recently deceased spouse's body has been
    taken away for 'analysis.'"

    Though Kurtz has finally been able to return to his home and recover his
    wife's body, the FBI has still not returned any of his equipment,
    computers or manuscripts, nor given any indication of when they will. The
    case remains open.


    A small fortune has already been spent on lawyers for Kurtz and other
    Critical Art Ensemble members. A defense fund has been established at
    http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ to help defray the legal costs which
    will continue to mount so long as the investigation continues. Donations
    go directly to the legal defense of Kurtz and other Critical Art Ensemble
    members. Should the funds raised exceed the cost of the legal defense, any
    remaining money will be used to help other artists in need.

    To make a donation, please visit http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/

    For more information on the Critical Art Ensemble, please visit

    Articles about the case:

    On advice of counsel, Steve Kurtz is unable to answer questions regarding
    his case. Please direct questions or comments to Carla Mendes
    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
    The international ban against torturing prisoners of war does not necessarily apply to suspects detained in America\'s war on terror, Attorney General John Ashcroft told a Senate oversight committee
    -- true colors revealed, a brown shirt and jackboots

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    Tax dallors in constant and ever flowing action.

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