Geez, you guys take this stuff hardcore seriously huh? I think it's fair to say, reiterating my previous point, that their products are decent, they just could be better. Every product could be better, granted, but c'mon, we know MS can crank out considerably better stuff, they have the best brains in the business. MS obviously doesn't suck, but there are definately some issues.

But this is an old debate, isn't it? All we're missing are the usual linux guys to jump into the fray. Like I said, both sides have good points, we just need to give credit where credit's due while at the same time making our criticisms.

And as long as we have stupid users, even the best stuff will get screwed up...